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Durrr
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#1 - 2013-02-05 23:30:38 UTC
Why does the Mordus Legion use the flag of Albania as its emblem? Oh, sure, its red on white background, instead of black on red background but, otherwise it is identical. Any thoughts?
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#2 - 2013-02-05 23:37:01 UTC
They do it to inspire thoughtful forum conversation.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Renzo Ruderi
Doomheim
#3 - 2013-02-05 23:53:05 UTC
Durrr wrote:
Why does the Mordus Legion use the flag of Albania as its emblem? Oh, sure, its red on white background, instead of black on red background but, otherwise it is identical. Any thoughts?


Given that crests like that are and have been used and reused by a ridiculous number of families, towns, sports teams, etc. over the last 1400 years or so, it's a bit of a leap to say that it was taken from Albania in this case.

Check the history of the Flag of Albania. The nation now called Albania didn't invent that thing for their flag, they appropriated it.

Also, something as simple as changing the color of a flag does make it a different flag. Look at other flags around the world; if you followed the logic that changing colors left the flag "otherwise identical," then there'd be a lot of flag-theft going around.
Merouk Baas
#4 - 2013-02-05 23:54:36 UTC
They should make the ratting music that you hear when fighting Mordus the same as the national anthem of Albania.
Wodensun
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-02-06 02:46:48 UTC
Merouk Baas wrote:
They should make the ratting music that you hear when fighting Mordus the same as the national anthem of Albania.


You never heard their anthem did you?

Albanian national anthem

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Raiz Nhell
State War Academy
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-02-06 02:51:51 UTC
Durrr wrote:
Why does the Mordus Legion use the flag of Albania as its emblem? Oh, sure, its red on white background, instead of black on red background but, otherwise it is identical. Any thoughts?


Maybe Albania is a long lost colony of Mordus Legion...

Maybe we are all Dust Bunnies, awaiting an orbital bombardment...

Maybe we are all figments of Sansha's imagination...

There is no such thing as a fair fight...

If your fighting fair you have automatically put yourself at a disadvantage.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#7 - 2013-02-06 06:41:06 UTC
Renzo Ruderi wrote:
Also, something as simple as changing the color of a flag does make it a different flag. Look at other flags around the world; if you followed the logic that changing colors left the flag "otherwise identical," then there'd be a lot of flag-theft going around.


Italy and Hungary's flags are identical but rotated 90deg from each other.
Guinea and Mali have the same flag but flipped.
Netherlands and France, reversed and turned 90deg
Monaco/Indonesia and Poland, flipped vertically (Monaco and Indonesia's flags are identical)

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/docs/flagsoftheworld.html

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Durrr
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#8 - 2013-02-06 06:45:17 UTC
Renzo Ruderi wrote:
Durrr wrote:
Why does the Mordus Legion use the flag of Albania as its emblem? Oh, sure, its red on white background, instead of black on red background but, otherwise it is identical. Any thoughts?


Given that crests like that are and have been used and reused by a ridiculous number of families, towns, sports teams, etc. over the last 1400 years or so, it's a bit of a leap to say that it was taken from Albania in this case.

Check the history of the Flag of Albania. The nation now called Albania didn't invent that thing for their flag, they appropriated it.

Also, something as simple as changing the color of a flag does make it a different flag. Look at other flags around the world; if you followed the logic that changing colors left the flag "otherwise identical," then there'd be a lot of flag-theft going around.


Well its one thing when a flag is merely a color scheme (ie: Russia, France, etc.), however, its quite different when there is an emblem, especially one as unique as this.
Milton Middleson
Rifterlings
#9 - 2013-02-06 06:50:58 UTC
A double-headed eagle is actually a pretty common device.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#10 - 2013-02-06 06:53:18 UTC  |  Edited by: RubyPorto
Durrr wrote:
Well its one thing when a flag is merely a color scheme (ie: Russia, France, etc.), however, its quite different when there is an emblem, especially one as unique as this.


1. It's not unique. As Renzo pointed out, crests like that have been in use for hundreds of years.

2. Algeria, Azerbaijan, Libya, Malaysia, Mauritania, Pakistan, Turkey, and Tunisia all use the Crescent and Star emblem.
Lebanon and Norfolk Island both use the Evergreen Tree.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Super spikinator
Hegemonous Conscripts
#11 - 2013-02-06 07:24:49 UTC
Durrr wrote:
Renzo Ruderi wrote:
Durrr wrote:
Why does the Mordus Legion use the flag of Albania as its emblem? Oh, sure, its red on white background, instead of black on red background but, otherwise it is identical. Any thoughts?


Given that crests like that are and have been used and reused by a ridiculous number of families, towns, sports teams, etc. over the last 1400 years or so, it's a bit of a leap to say that it was taken from Albania in this case.

Check the history of the Flag of Albania. The nation now called Albania didn't invent that thing for their flag, they appropriated it.

Also, something as simple as changing the color of a flag does make it a different flag. Look at other flags around the world; if you followed the logic that changing colors left the flag "otherwise identical," then there'd be a lot of flag-theft going around.


Well its one thing when a flag is merely a color scheme (ie: Russia, France, etc.), however, its quite different when there is an emblem, especially one as unique as this.


The double headed eagle, while quite nicely done on the Albanian flag has been a symbol since, oh about 5 or 6 thousand years. possibly more. The splayed wing feathers aren't even unique, they have been in use at least since the holy Roman Empire (16th Century), though their particular positioning is a favourite of Albanian flags, with only the flags between the beginning of the great war to the the beginning of the second world war more traditionally positioned.
Ra'Shyne Viper
Native Freshfood
#12 - 2013-02-06 07:25:33 UTC
whats going on in this thread?Lol

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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#13 - 2013-02-06 07:27:39 UTC
Ra'Shyne Viper wrote:
whats going on in this thread?Lol


Vexillologic and Heraldric nerdery.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
GreenSeed
#14 - 2013-02-06 07:45:18 UTC
Durrr wrote:
Why does the Mordus Legion use the flag of Albania as its emblem? Oh, sure, its red on white background, instead of black on red background but, otherwise it is identical. Any thoughts?

so, its identical, except its not identical... so how come it is so to begin with?
Vran DalEsra
Vran DalEsra Corporation
#15 - 2013-02-06 07:51:35 UTC
And then there is the Double Headed Eagle of the Palaiologos Dynasty of the Eastern Roman Empire.. circa 1400 or earlier

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Palaiologos-Dynasty-Eagle.svg/403px-Palaiologos-Dynasty-Eagle.svg.png
Eija-Riitta Veitonen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#16 - 2013-02-06 08:23:47 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Durrr wrote:
Well its one thing when a flag is merely a color scheme (ie: Russia, France, etc.), however, its quite different when there is an emblem, especially one as unique as this.


1. It's not unique. As Renzo pointed out, crests like that have been in use for hundreds of years.

2. Algeria, Azerbaijan, Libya, Malaysia, Mauritania, Pakistan, Turkey, and Tunisia all use the Crescent and Star emblem.
Lebanon and Norfolk Island both use the Evergreen Tree.


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