EVE General Discussion

+1 for the Kelly's Hero's reference!

EVE is a sand box MMO, if one day one guy with his alliance control all the null sec, CCP should not intervene.

Players make the EVE's life, not CCP which "only" provide tools to live EVE.

You can be against the 4 dominant alliances, but don't call CCP to act against that, it is not the EVE philosophy.

Here is how you do it.

I've been involved in a coupe corp formations, and seen it done well, and seen it done poorly.

1) Decide on the "purpose" of the corp. If you just want to play a couple hours a day doing PVP roams in low sec, or just put up a high sec POS so you and a couple friends can do some research... well, that is one thing. IF, however, you want to participate in the shaping of the EVE political universe, that is something else. For the rest of this post, I'll assume the latter.

2) You've decided you want to be in instigator. Okay. Have no life other than EVE. Okay, maybe a job, but one that allows you to log into EVE and be atleast semi AFK a lot of the time. Plan to play EVE at least 8-10 hours a day, if not more, 7 days a week, for the next few years, if not the rest of your life. It really only takes a couple weeks away and the corp can go to heck.

3) Gather some freinds, that like you, and super trust, that also have no life other than EVE.

4) Decide if you want to be industrial or PVP. In the formation stage it is SUPER hard to be both. PVP will get you wardecs, driving off industrialists. Industry will BORE the heck out of PVPers.

5) Build a set of core assets. If PVP, have mega cash on hand and ways to make more to pay back corp members when they lose ships. If industrial, orca, perfect refine, BPO collection, etc.

6) Start gathering people. Encourage, and even require, some level of group participation. Voice coms is a MUST! Weed out the alts, spies, people not serious. If you are online, then you are in our fleet and you are on voice comms. If PVP, load up the KB with kills and losses whether that is war or roam. Even if you have to create alt corps and let your guys kill your alts without them knowing that is what is going on. If industrial, lots and lots of group mining ops, with big payouts to participants, keep the BPO collection growing, manufacture stuff to sell, etc. Go out of your way to a) keep if fun, b) build group cohesion, c) make everyone feel like they are building toward something and they are an important part of that.


7) A point will come where you are big enough that the critical mass can keep the activity going. At this point, gathring new people becomes a little easier as all your people are telling theri friends how fun and active your corp is. Just keep up the activity!


8) Pick a side in the.. what you call blue donut... then be assimilated. If you are industry, and have a big active group, then rent is no problem. If you are PVP, then you pay for your presence with kills and participation in alliance operations.





EVE is very Feudal. The small corp leaders are the lords, given privilege in return for being able to deliver either goods or people. Dukes are the member alliances, controlling the lords. The King is the coalition leadership, to whom the Dukes report. As a Lord, you are not going to gather a couple hundred people, then wonder into feudal lands and declare yourself king. The existing kings will have a little something to say about that.

I'm gone for six months and Eve is still dying?

THE HUMANITY

Yo dawg, they just started a server where everyone starts from scratch. Its called: Serenity.

Guess what: large groups of players coalesced and banded together to control the best space hth

yes

once we achieve the big blue donut, we'll set our sights on jita once again

You ever actually just go out to nullsec and do your own thing?

I do it all the time and its dead 95% of the time. Plexes, anoms, belt ratting, you name it.

No need to join the blob if you have a brain and backbone.

Now taking your own moon is another thing...

The problem is you're treating it like a single player game. In EVE the political game is a part of it. You need to forge your own alliances, get your own things done. Take the example of the Guiding Hand Social Club and the work they did to take down Ubiqua Seraph. It's a good read of what you can achieve in EVE if you're willing to invest the meta game and time to get it done.

You can complain that you're unable to own a number of moons, own a large sector of space and command a fleet of Titans. OR you can do what those alliances do; forge the political links. Fight for the space. Gain control of it. Play the game both in and outside of the client.

Basically - the game is what you make of it.

Much like the Gallenta "winning" the faction war against the Caladari, that to did not last. This will take a bit longer for the collaspe.
People will get bored ratting and plexing. Capital ship pilots will let subscriptions lapse, people will log in less and less as they get bored just wandering around looking for fights. Less people will be on to defend things.
Corps in the OTEC cartel will begin to start asking for a greater share cause they are doing more work, bonds will break, old rivalries will heat up and cracks will appear. Soon the whole house of cards will collapse and it will be all out war the likes of which have not been seen. My guess is 6 months from now.

Right now war chests are secretly being filled and assests put in stratagic locations. This all of course my uneducated guess and rumor mongering.

The process will start over and in a year or so we will be having this same discussion over again.

I don't know. I'm starting to believe that the real EvE that matters is in hi-sec, low-sec, and worm hole space.

Also I saw 58,000 players on this weekend. Can't really be dying.