Crime & Punishment

Being from the South, I can assure you that calling someone's mother fat where I grew up was more than enough reason to get a mudhole stomped in your ass.

Well, I get what he's saying, definitely. There are some lines you just don't cross. Real life stalking and harassment for a video game loss is way over the line. You want to follow me around in game and gank me every time I undock, I can understand, but this was way, way too far.

Wow, this thread is bringing out all the crazies.

First of all, congrats to my Skunkworks bros on eliciting some epic, career topping tears. You guys should write a book, "The Noob who Cried All the Way to Toronto," by Floppy and Monk (imagining that you guys live in Toronto for some inexplicable reason).

Second of all, to the rest of you - EVE is a role playing game. Some people choose to play the role of the bad guys. It would be a pretty boring game if nobody did so. It has absolutely no reflection on who they are or what they do in RL. If you are that emotionally wrapped up in your PVE boat, then you seriously need some kind of intervention. Go outside and get some fresh air, take a walk, and ask yourself seriously if some silly Internet spaceship game is really worth all that. In a way these "griefers" and "pirates" provide a service to the game community by bringing these stories out and giving us perspective on the game, reminding us that Eve isn't real after all.

It's a video game, if you have a grudge in game, you should keep it in game. Taking a video game grudge into the real world is just plain wrong, especially when it involves taking that grudge out on people that don't even play the video game in question. Someone obviously has a problem differentiating between a virtual world and the real world, a reality disconnect if you will. Griefing is defined by CCP, not the players, virtual tear collection is a valid gameplay option in Eve, if people didn't cry over their space pixel losses then the tear collection would stop.

Case in point. The cancer killing Eve.


And that's in your right. Scam or gank or whatever. It happens. But then people like you take it beyond that and just troll and engage in verbal abuse. Eve was not about that. It was about the PvP, the Ganks, the Scam, the Emergence, the epic.

It was NEVER about bullying. People like YOU facilitate it and then whine when RL consequences come back to bite you. Then all you gankers come together saying "oh it's a game it's a game." It was a game before you took it a step beyond.

Consequences happen. You are not invincible behind your computer. Act like a decent human being. Eve is not a pass to act like a jerk without consequence.


Sorry but enjoying someone's pain and suffering says a lot for their real world personality.


The same goes for you. Go outside and and ask yourself why you enjoy causing other people grief and enjoying their tears. Are you really that wrapped up in being a l33t pee vee pee'r that you'd do anything to impress your interweb friends?



It was like that. I remember some great stories. BoB's roaming cap fleet that just roflstomped everything. Epic GHSC scams making headlines, and even more. But in the end, they just played. They kept playing. They didn't go back and remind the victim every day that LOL U SUCK CRY MOAR NOOB GB2 WOW.

Back then, people used to actually help the victim learn and get better. Some still do thank Gods. Because of that, they're better players. This has changed, drastically. PLAY MY WAY OR I KEEP YOU FROM DOING YOUR THING U NOOB U SUCK GTFO LOLOL YOU FAIL YOU SHULD AN HERO.

I see this crap more and more and more, and I've had it. It needs ended. I don't have a problem with the seedier activities in Eve, I have a problem of how far the griefers are taking it now a days.

@Unit CA108AF

You are completely insane. And a very obvious alt, possible Theory666's.

First of all: PLEASE, STOP talking about Real-Life Consequences. There is no such thing as this is a GAME. Cause and Consequence is only acceptable WITHIN the game. Taking "consequences" to real-life is not only insane, IT IS A CRIME in many countries.

Please, GTFO.

I can't speak for everyone in my profession, but I'm on speaking terms with most of the best people in my in-game profession and I can tell you that outburts like the above are not the norm for us. And they certainly did not happen in this case. We were very civil. We were certainly firm in our positions, but very civil.

In fact, the sort of thing you used as an example above occasionally gets heaped upon us and we take it *as* tears.

Dude, I have been watching Skunks for a couple years, as well as the rest, and even been on the receiving end of one of their wardecs. They only taunt those who come crying about it.

Don't cry about pixels, and this won't be an issue. I have gotten mad about losing my pixels once or twice. First time I took an eve break because I was so emotionally invested it was bad for me, and the second time, well, I saw what I was doing and just started laughing.

Haven't had a problem since I realized they were just pixels tho.

Part of trolling people who do that is to make it clear that those people need to stop playing. Being that invested in an imaginary world is not a good thing, and if you are that invested, you need to get away from it. Sadly, you won't get away from it until you are made to feel absolutely awful about it.

Not saying thats why people do it, but that is the usual effect of it, which is a good thing.

Then don't make them cry about the bloody pixels. What's so hard to understand about this? Is civility really so alien to the PvP community now? And why can't people read? Ganking is not my problem, it's the trolling and verbal abuse that continues AFTER the fact.


Who are you to not only abuse them verbally, but tell them not to play? And look who's talking. Griefers who troll in an extreme manner are wrapped up in their own little imaginary world that they must beat their virtual chest against their victim JUST to get a reaction. That is sick, plain and simple. I don't care how much you people hide behind "ccp's definition." The world and people see it as abuse. And guess what? You're not pod pilots, you're people. Clearly messed up people at that.

Leave the tear collection culture behind.[/quote]



See, right there. That's what's wrong. He even had to edit his comment because he didn't want to have people know what he really is; a psycho.

It's about the tears? It's about inflicting grief? Give me a break "tough guy."