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Iceland denies the FBI entry

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#41 - 2013-02-04 22:34:01 UTC
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
Vaju Enki wrote:
Love Iceland.

Goddamn rednecks and their terror tactics.


When will you people learn that redneck is another term for cowboy and is not considered an insult.



Announce this in any bar in Texas and let us know the ugly results. And they will be ugly.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#42 - 2013-02-04 22:42:40 UTC
I understand the fishing there can be spectacular, though fishing permits for tourist are a bit pricy?

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Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#43 - 2013-02-04 22:49:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Micheal Dietrich
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
Vaju Enki wrote:
Love Iceland.

Goddamn rednecks and their terror tactics.


When will you people learn that redneck is another term for cowboy and is not considered an insult.



Announce this in any bar in Texas and let us know the ugly results. And they will be ugly.



I will. In fact I have decided that I will go to Rednecks Drafthouse and Billiards, because they name their bars for the people who enjoy being rednecks, like me.

Theres also Redneck heaven, Redneck Bar and Grill

Aw ****, check out the Texas Redneck Games

Texas redneck BBQ sauce

Rednecks originated in the South Jack ass.

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Astenion
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2013-02-05 19:24:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Astenion
Redneck is a derogatory term for poorly-educated, rural simpletons; don't try to make it something it's not. The people saying "it's not an insult" are the ones who embody being poorly-educated, rural simpletons. A$$hole is also a legitimate orifice in the human digestive system, but that doesn't mean it's not an insult to call someone that. Just because you're proud of being a redneck doesn't mean it's a compliment.

Also, the term redneck does not mean cowboy. A cowboy has nothing to do with a redneck. Cowboys are ranchers and cattlemen and are a dying breed, whereas rednecks are abound.

What the FBI did, while they may not actually be rednecks, was something a redneck would do.
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#45 - 2013-02-05 19:53:11 UTC
Look at the guy who's trying to be all text book with the online dictionary and wiki quotes. And look how silly he is trying to say that cowboys, whom he classified poorly, are a dieing breed. Our last expert up above hails from San Francisco/Florida so his redneck experience amounts to a model in a designer 'cowboy' hat driving a sports car asking if he wants to ro-day-o with a heavy lisp. I'm going to go out on a limb and say you live on the east coast in some nice big city.

Stay off the wiki.

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Astenion
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#46 - 2013-02-05 19:56:01 UTC
silens vesica wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:

I would think that normally they would send in the CIA instead.

Being an intelligence collection agency, the CIA is singularly un-suited to undertaking a law-enforcement role, not to mention that most foriegn activities of the CIA are at least somewhat 'covert' in nature, which is also generally unsuited to lawenforcement activities.

FBI was the correct agency to send - presuming they bothered to abide by the rules, which, it appears, they did not.


Astenion wrote:
Loco Kamikaze wrote:
there's a bit of history between the US and Iceland, involves a US occupation. until quite recently.


Ahem, no...there was no US OCCUPATION of Iceland. Presence and occupation are two different things.

I personally know several folks as were stationed in Iceland. If anything, it was quite the opposite of 'occupation' (and anyone who claims it *was* an occupation is either ignorant, or selling something). Few servicemen were allowed to take quarters off base. Uniforms NOT to be worn off base. Keflavik was very nearly under quarantine status.
Despite the hostile environement, NAS Keflavic provided almost 1000 locals employment.


This is something many people in nations around the world don't understand. The US is renting these bases from host nations; they're paying billions of dollars PER MONTH to be there. If the Icelandic government wanted the US out of Iceland, they would ask them to leave, as did Saudi Arabia. The US doesn't own any of these bases. These bases are a cash cow for their local and national economies and are required to hire local nationals to work for them as per the SOFA (Status of Forces Agreement).

I can see why people may be so angered towards the US because many of these people do not realize that it's a partnership, not an occupation, and they see it as an occupation. Germany, Italy, South Korea, and Japan are strong allies with the US and support US foreign policy for the most part. That said, their hands are not tied in any of this...it's their decision whether or not to keep US forces in their country. All this talk about ""Murica is an empire because they have troops in our country!!!!!1" is, quite simply, uninformed ignorance. American bases are the golden goose for many nations, which is why Poland is begging to host bases right now. In fact, many units in Italy are being shut down because they're just useless and have no strategic importance whatsoever. If people want to be outraged and demand the expulsion of US forces, they should look to their government to do so, but that's never going to happen because EU governments are some of the most corrupt in the world. The entire reason the US is still in NATO is because of their attitude of, "screw funding our own military, we'll just keep US forces in country and let them protect us if something happens." Talk to anyone older than 25 in a country with a US presence and they'll tell you the same thing. If Iceland had ever decided to actually have a military (they have no military whatsoever), I'm sure they wouldn't have asked the US to maintain a presence at Reykjavik (sp?) or Kevlavik during the Cold War, as the former Soviet Union would have LOVED to get their hands on that little volcanic island.

Then you have to look at the source: Scandinavians love to hate America, yet there are zero bases with any American presence anywhere in Scandinavia. Same with France. This leads me to believe all this "die America!" is just a bunch of 15-year-old internet warriors who don't know what they're talking about. The only exemption would be the UK, simply because they can't stand us just because we came from them and dumped a bunch of tea into a harbor. Not kidding. The amount of time they can hold a grudge over nothing is staggering. We wanted to set up an RAF/USAF exchange program at Neadishead, and as I was shooting the breeze with an RAF colonel in Poland at NATO Air Meet in 2003, he told me that it got shot down because some people are still bitter. I smirked and laughed, he chuckled a bit, and then said, "No, really. That's why."
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#47 - 2013-02-05 19:56:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
Our last expert up above hails from San Francisco/Florida so his redneck experience amounts to a model in a designer 'cowboy' hat driving a sports car asking if he wants to ro-day-o with a heavy lisp.
Stay off the wiki.



I was born in an incredibly small town in rural Arkansas and lived there 13 years before spending until the age of 30 in HOUSTON, TEXAS.

edit: Also, reported for your obnoxious 'lisp' comment.

edit redux: Also.....SUPER CREEPY that you've paid such close attention to my background. That merits some further attention I think.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Astenion
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#48 - 2013-02-05 20:00:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Astenion
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
Look at the guy who's trying to be all text book with the online dictionary and wiki quotes. And look how silly he is trying to say that cowboys, whom he classified poorly, are a dieing breed. Our last expert up above hails from San Francisco/Florida so his redneck experience amounts to a model in a designer 'cowboy' hat driving a sports car asking if he wants to ro-day-o with a heavy lisp. I'm going to go out on a limb and say you live on the east coast in some nice big city.

Stay off the wiki.


I live in Italy, you idiot. I joined the USAF after high school but grew up on a 2000 acre ranch with over 500 head of cattle and 10 head of horses in Louisiana. I got into team roping and calf roping due to the necessity of having to go rope cattle out in the pasture and doctor them. I competed semi-professionally but gave it up because I wanted to join the military. I've forgotten more about ranching and cowboying than your gun-rack-in-the-pickup-with-the-rebel-flag-in-the-window, I-just-saw-8 Seconds-so-now-Imma-be-a-bull-rider ignorant ass will ever know. You're a Texan, though. It's understandable.
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#49 - 2013-02-05 20:06:49 UTC
Astenion wrote:
silens vesica wrote:

I personally know several folks as were stationed in Iceland. If anything, it was quite the opposite of 'occupation' (and anyone who claims it *was* an occupation is either ignorant, or selling something). Few servicemen were allowed to take quarters off base. Uniforms NOT to be worn off base. Keflavik was very nearly under quarantine status.
Despite the hostile environement, NAS Keflavic provided almost 1000 locals employment.


This is something many people in nations around the world don't understand. The US is renting these bases from host nations; they're paying billions of dollars PER MONTH to be there. If the Icelandic government wanted the US out of Iceland, they would ask them to leave, as did Saudi Arabia. The US doesn't own any of these bases. These bases are a cash cow for their local and national economies and are required to hire local nationals to work for them as per the SOFA (Status of Forces Agreement).


Well, to be fully up-to-date, Keflavik *has* been returned to the Iceland and the Althing; The US pulled most of it's forces out of Icealand in the Mid-00's.

Otherwise, generally spot-on.

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Astenion
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#50 - 2013-02-05 20:07:22 UTC
Just to be clear to all my EU friends here, not every place in the US is like that godawful pit called Texas (Austin's cool, though). Don't let this guy skew your opinion of all of us just because he's probably one of those idiots who wanted to secede from the US. He can't help it. He's from Texas.
Astenion
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#51 - 2013-02-05 20:11:10 UTC
silens vesica wrote:
Astenion wrote:
silens vesica wrote:

I personally know several folks as were stationed in Iceland. If anything, it was quite the opposite of 'occupation' (and anyone who claims it *was* an occupation is either ignorant, or selling something). Few servicemen were allowed to take quarters off base. Uniforms NOT to be worn off base. Keflavik was very nearly under quarantine status.
Despite the hostile environement, NAS Keflavic provided almost 1000 locals employment.


This is something many people in nations around the world don't understand. The US is renting these bases from host nations; they're paying billions of dollars PER MONTH to be there. If the Icelandic government wanted the US out of Iceland, they would ask them to leave, as did Saudi Arabia. The US doesn't own any of these bases. These bases are a cash cow for their local and national economies and are required to hire local nationals to work for them as per the SOFA (Status of Forces Agreement).


Well, to be fully up-to-date, Keflavik *has* been returned to the Iceland and the Althing; The US pulled most of it's forces out of Icealand in the Mid-00's.

Otherwise, generally spot-on.


Wow, that's great news! I got out in the mid-2000s and decided to stay in Italy (I love living in the EU), so I'm out of the loop. I had heard that our unit was leaving Kevlavik, but never heard the rest of the story. Friends told me that they go TDY there sometimes for training, but that's all I know. I'm always glad to see the US leaving its bases overseas, especially when they're totally useless like Kevlavik was. Even if it's not an occupation, when it's time to go, it's time to go.
Astenion
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#52 - 2013-02-05 20:17:22 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
Our last expert up above hails from San Francisco/Florida so his redneck experience amounts to a model in a designer 'cowboy' hat driving a sports car asking if he wants to ro-day-o with a heavy lisp.
Stay off the wiki.



I was born in an incredibly small town in rural Arkansas and lived there 13 years before spending until the age of 30 in HOUSTON, TEXAS.

edit: Also, reported for your obnoxious 'lisp' comment.

edit redux: Also.....SUPER CREEPY that you've paid such close attention to my background. That merits some further attention I think.


I think he was talking about me. Still, you're right. Super creepy.
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#53 - 2013-02-05 20:18:55 UTC
Astenion wrote:
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
Look at the guy who's trying to be all text book with the online dictionary and wiki quotes. And look how silly he is trying to say that cowboys, whom he classified poorly, are a dieing breed. Our last expert up above hails from San Francisco/Florida so his redneck experience amounts to a model in a designer 'cowboy' hat driving a sports car asking if he wants to ro-day-o with a heavy lisp. I'm going to go out on a limb and say you live on the east coast in some nice big city.

Stay off the wiki.


I live in Italy, you idiot. I joined the USAF after high school but grew up on a 2000 acre ranch with over 500 head of cattle and 10 head of horses in Louisiana. I got into team roping and calf roping due to the necessity of having to go rope cattle out in the pasture and doctor them. I competed semi-professionally but gave it up because I wanted to join the military. I've forgotten more about ranching and cowboying than your gun-rack-in-the-pickup-with-the-rebel-flag-in-the-window, I-just-saw-8 Seconds-so-now-Imma-be-a-bull-rider ignorant ass will ever know. You're a Texan, though. It's understandable.


Never said I was Texan :) For some reason you city slickers assume that Texas is the only place where hicks come from. And yeah, its painfully obvious that you have forgotten so much when you directly pull quotes from the first line of 2 wiki pages.



Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
I was born in an incredibly small town in rural Arkansas and lived there 13 years before spending until the age of 30 in HOUSTON, TEXAS.

edit: Also, reported for your obnoxious 'lisp' comment.

edit redux: Also.....SUPER CREEPY that you've paid such close attention to my background. That merits some further attention I think.


That's my boy, always willing to dish it out but ready to hit the report button because he can't take it. By the way spending time in Texas does not make you a cowboy, it makes you a Texan.

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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#54 - 2013-02-05 20:25:38 UTC
Astenion wrote:
silens vesica wrote:
Astenion wrote:
silens vesica wrote:

I personally know several folks as were stationed in Iceland. If anything, it was quite the opposite of 'occupation' (and anyone who claims it *was* an occupation is either ignorant, or selling something). Few servicemen were allowed to take quarters off base. Uniforms NOT to be worn off base. Keflavik was very nearly under quarantine status.
Despite the hostile environement, NAS Keflavic provided almost 1000 locals employment.


This is something many people in nations around the world don't understand. The US is renting these bases from host nations; they're paying billions of dollars PER MONTH to be there. If the Icelandic government wanted the US out of Iceland, they would ask them to leave, as did Saudi Arabia. The US doesn't own any of these bases. These bases are a cash cow for their local and national economies and are required to hire local nationals to work for them as per the SOFA (Status of Forces Agreement).


Well, to be fully up-to-date, Keflavik *has* been returned to the Iceland and the Althing; The US pulled most of it's forces out of Icealand in the Mid-00's.

Otherwise, generally spot-on.


Wow, that's great news! I got out in the mid-2000s and decided to stay in Italy (I love living in the EU), so I'm out of the loop. I had heard that our unit was leaving Kevlavik, but never heard the rest of the story. Friends told me that they go TDY there sometimes for training, but that's all I know. I'm always glad to see the US leaving its bases overseas, especially when they're totally useless like Kevlavik was. Even if it's not an occupation, when it's time to go, it's time to go.

Keflavik had five purposes - To defend any execution of REFORGER, to close the G-I-UK gap to Soviet surface forces, to screen fleet movements in the Atlantic, to serve as a primary long-range North Atlantic airborne ASW hub, and to defend the SOSUS terminal.

Almost all of those purposes are moot now, so Keflavik became moot.

Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.

Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#55 - 2013-02-05 20:26:07 UTC
Micheal Dietrich wrote:

That's my boy, always willing to dish it out but ready to hit the report button because he can't take it. By the way spending time in Texas does not make you a cowboy, it makes you a Texan.



Erm no. There just is not a place here for your particular brand of pointless obnoxiousness.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Astenion
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#56 - 2013-02-05 20:31:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Astenion
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
Astenion wrote:
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
Look at the guy who's trying to be all text book with the online dictionary and wiki quotes. And look how silly he is trying to say that cowboys, whom he classified poorly, are a dieing breed. Our last expert up above hails from San Francisco/Florida so his redneck experience amounts to a model in a designer 'cowboy' hat driving a sports car asking if he wants to ro-day-o with a heavy lisp. I'm going to go out on a limb and say you live on the east coast in some nice big city.

Stay off the wiki.


I live in Italy, you idiot. I joined the USAF after high school but grew up on a 2000 acre ranch with over 500 head of cattle and 10 head of horses in Louisiana. I got into team roping and calf roping due to the necessity of having to go rope cattle out in the pasture and doctor them. I competed semi-professionally but gave it up because I wanted to join the military. I've forgotten more about ranching and cowboying than your gun-rack-in-the-pickup-with-the-rebel-flag-in-the-window, I-just-saw-8 Seconds-so-now-Imma-be-a-bull-rider ignorant ass will ever know. You're a Texan, though. It's understandable.


Never said I was Texan :) For some reason you city slickers assume that Texas is the only place where hicks come from. And yeah, its painfully obvious that you have forgotten so much when you directly pull quotes from the first line of 2 wiki pages.



Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
I was born in an incredibly small town in rural Arkansas and lived there 13 years before spending until the age of 30 in HOUSTON, TEXAS.

edit: Also, reported for your obnoxious 'lisp' comment.

edit redux: Also.....SUPER CREEPY that you've paid such close attention to my background. That merits some further attention I think.


That's my boy, always willing to dish it out but ready to hit the report button because he can't take it. By the way spending time in Texas does not make you a cowboy, it makes you a Texan.


Wikipedia? Did you actually have to look up in a wiki what I said? I'm drawing upon my personal history and experience...but it's obvious YOU had to look it up. I just called you out for being the wannabe you are, and you even closed the deal for me. Um, thanks? You should introduce your foot to your mouth now.

You really are a redneck, that much is clear. And no, it's not a compliment. And no, Texas isn't the only place where hicks come from; it's just the hicks in Texas are the worst.
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#57 - 2013-02-05 20:33:45 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Micheal Dietrich wrote:

That's my boy, always willing to dish it out but ready to hit the report button because he can't take it. By the way spending time in Texas does not make you a cowboy, it makes you a Texan.



Erm no. There just is not a place here for your particular brand of pointless obnoxiousness.



Says the guy who was telling us in that one thread what was ok to post according to 'his' parameters. Or how about your wonderful threads comparing goons to nazi's. And then there all of your iquit threads that you made with a small army of alts when unified inventory came out. In fact I think I can count on one hand the number of threads where you aren't being a total ass to everyone else. At least I don't hand out free isk to people whose views I disagree with. By the way, my buddy wants you to tack a little more on my name, he wants a new BC.

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Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#58 - 2013-02-05 20:37:48 UTC
Astenion wrote:

Wikipedia? Did you actually have to look up in a wiki what I said? I'm drawing upon my personal history and experience


Astenion wrote:
Redneck is a derogatory term for poorly-educated, rural simpletons
Cowboys are ranchers and cattlemen


Astenion's personal history

Seriously, 1st freaking line.....

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Astenion
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#59 - 2013-02-05 20:58:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Astenion
WHERE? I said cowboys and ranchers are a dying breed and have nothing to do with rednecks. Hahaha, where the hell did you get "cowboys and ranchers are a dying breed" confused with "A cowboy is an animal herder who tends cattle on ranches in North America"? Or was it the redneck line about being uneducated?

LMFAO OMG did you actually have to go to wikipedia to discover whether or not the term "redneck" was a derogatory term about uneducated, rural people? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Come on, Jethro.

And for the record, I said the term "redneck" is a derogatory term for uneducated, rural simpletons. The only two words in your link that were contained in my quote were "derogatory" and "uneducated". You see, I'm NOT a redneck, so I don't have to go to wikipedia to understand what the term "derogatory" means, and just because I can speak using multiple syllables and use "derogatory" correctly in a sentence does not imply that I'm somehow skimming off of wiki. I can understand how you would think that, though, with your CLEARLY inferior mental faculties. Was it the term "derogatory" that threw you off? Have you never heard that term before? I bet you think it sounds like a commie word, don't you? You probably think that's a word Obama would use, so you struck it from your oh-so-limited vocabulary.

That's like me describing Eve Online as a science-fiction MMO and you saying, "ZOMG YOU STOLE THAT FROM WIKIPEDIA BECAUSE IT SAYS THE SAME EXACT THING!!!!"

You are DEFINITELY a redneck. Only a redneck would assume that everyone else is as dumb as he is.
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#60 - 2013-02-05 21:02:19 UTC
I've got a backhoe you can borrow when you hit bedrock.

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