EVE General Discussion

For the first few months of playing I canflipped in a battle sigil. That moment when it dawns on them that they're screwed is the most satisfying thing, I don't care how petty you think it is.

First day in eve I read about a bleeder punisher fit back in 2008. The next step was happening onto a highsec war in Chaven, where wrecks were at Amarr gate (iirc). I looted some t2 mods from a battleship wreck and warped off while being targeted, felt like a successful criminal.

With the 15 mill I made the first thing was to buy 10 punishers with the bleeder fit. I went to nearest lowsec, got blown up some 8 times in Shajarleg-Naguton, one of the deaths trying to bleed an ishtar.

Then, after some hours, I stumbled across the ishtar in an asteroid belt d-scan. Warped there, as he was tackling a drake and went do the bleeder thing. Pop went the ishtar vs. my punisher and drake, after which he whined about alts in local. I had my revenge and it was good, only a few years later I checked on my killboards to notice it was actually a horrible failfit kill with local smack for a clueless newbie punisher - priceless.

EDIT: remembered stuff wrong. heres killmail of my first kill on a trial char :)
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=8570838

Leaving aside the standard fountain defense roams within a month of starting it was probably this vargur kill.

Hero tackle best tackle. It'd been moving through our space for ages, always avoiding us. Finally grabbing it felt sweet. I've had other kills, I've had better kills, but considering were were literally all over the place and managed to hold it down long enough for the dps to get on was damn good.

You fail at reading?
He didn't say it was wrong he said it ain't pvp (it's ganking).

Maybe its not FiS mano e mano combat, but Its is taking something from someone else to empower yourself. Same as market PvP or scams or a game of riddles. Do you guys have links to the "official" definition of PvP?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Player_versus_player

Thats all I found, it certainly doesn't restrict the usage to dogfights in space.

So I rant about PLEX scams, defend new player retention and try to take a look at how we can make Eve more dark and edgy and dangerous and at the same time draw in new blood and energy and ideas.

Over the last few days I have seen the feast of the unknowing, the clueless, and the just plain incompetent:

-One girl was asking in help the best place to sell a PLEX. *I convo her, and of course she is planning on moving it.

-An 8 mil SP guy wanted a 1v1 to try out PvP, I make a SS drop a can and fleet up. He takes the can and shoots me.

-And just today I have this level 3 with a ton of wrecks, I ask on help if anyone wants to salvage it. Guy says “yes please”, so I put the location in the hanger and contract it to him. He flies out in his Noctis picks up the location, flies to the not-abandoned wrecks and steals the loot, while I’m in system doing part 2 of the mission.

I am beginning to wonder if the Eve gods are speaking.

Don't you feel guilty for not creating content, not helping to make the game an exciting and dangerous place?

You are confusing "screwing someone over" with succeeding against the competition.

Succeeding, or winning, when other people are involved trying to do the same thing does not by neccessity mean you have to screw someone over to do so.

Success shouldn't be something to be ashamed of.

This seems to be a point of confusion among many of this generation.

I tried to STICK IT TO THE MAN in my first week, attacked a Concord cruiser with my Rifter and proceeded to lose my backup ship when undocking (Timer? What timer?)

On day god will punish everyone in this thread.

On the day of judgement, as you are being cast down into hell, you'll gnash your teeth and decry "Why lord! It was just a video game!"

And the lord sayeth "I did it for the lulz!"