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Is there a reasonable point to having a 2nd (or 3rd) Char on the SAME account?

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Steven Koskanaiken
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#21 - 2013-02-04 21:38:47 UTC
Jakey Son wrote:
Just decided I'd make a primarily miner alt...to help with cash-flow.
Until I realized I can't train both characters @ the same time.

Ok, fine. no quarrels there.

But it makes me think well, if I want to level up mining and go mine...I may as well make my MAIN character do it and make him as versatile as possible. Miner AND good with gunnery etc.


I understand people have 2 accounts, which is fine.

But a 2nd char on the same account. Any good reasons?

Cheers


Cyno alt (only takes 1 week training)
Price checking alt
Trader (only couple of days to start trading at a good efficiency)
PI (only couple of days).
Bought character (pre trained)

And some people like to keep their PvP player a PvP player (so no mining skills) and just stop to train the mining character.
It can be done on the same character but to some it's like cursing, they hate industry skills. And all those industry skills also add up to the SP you need to reimburse with a clone (though it's only a small part, it can just make have to buy a bigger clone).
Quinc4623
Space Explorers Federation
#22 - 2013-02-04 21:45:04 UTC
Research, industry, and planet stuff can double or triple by training each of your character slots with those skills. With research, industry and planets you just log on relatively briefly for each character you've trained.

If you want to get into industry or trading, you should create an industry/trading alt. You main can fly off anywhere on a whim, while the industry/trading alt remains where ever it is most convenient for trading and industry.

The alt can also avoid missions, maintain relatively neutral standings, and remain in a NPC controlled corp, and thus be safe within all of high security space, regardless of what you do with your main. Pirates basically NEED an alt like this to get stuff from high sec, and it's also useful if you lose lots of standings with someone, or get a war declaration.

Generally only your main trains for combat. Mining can be done with either your main or industry alt. The main might participate in big corp mining fleets, while an alt might be stuck alone. Though it can be great to log in with your alt who lives near a high-sec ice field, and then mine ice while reading a book.
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
#23 - 2013-02-05 00:55:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Akita T
The key point in this making sense is to have reached a target skillset on all OTHER characters on the account (so that you keep on training only the "main" character).
Big bonus points for the roles those other characters are being used in having no need for prolonged login time (so you can spend most of your online time on your main).

An alternative borderline good reason would be clone cost.
If a huge portion of your main's skills are non-PvP in nature, having a separate PvP-only alt would actually make some sense.
Clone cost can get prohibitively expensive to a semi-casual PvPer who doesn't want to use cash to buy PLEX to fund his PvP habits, but rather spend less per death instead (and generally fly cheap ships to begin with).

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You can further speed up the whole process by having a second (or even a third) account where you train your secondary/tertiary character, then, when you're happy with their skillsets, transfer them to your main account and close off the secondary/tertiary accounts.
This is made less expensive with the "power of two" style offers (if you want a decent but not too high SP total). In fact, it's ever so slightly cheaper than spending that much time on your main.

Well, that, or simply purchase already-trained-by-others characters from the forum.
They seldom have the exact mix of skills you need, and you might have some reputation surprises, but they could run much cheaper overall.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
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ISD Alliance
#24 - 2013-02-05 01:39:25 UTC
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lollerwaffle
Perkone
Caldari State
#25 - 2013-02-05 02:47:23 UTC
Main - PVP and all related skills/supports
Alt - Jita shopping
Alt - Basic hauler (can haul up to packaged battlecruisers)

I park my Jita alt in Jita (surprise surprise) to buy things to be shipped to where I am. The hauler alt took almost no time to train to fly bestowers (few hours) back when they gave you skill points depending on your starting race.

Both alts are now cyno capable and can use combat probes (takes about 1 week) for those 'just in case' moments.

It all depends on what you require really, some people have it all on 1 character, some use 2 accounts to train 2 characters at the same time.
LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2013-02-05 22:40:27 UTC
Jakey Son wrote:
Maire Gheren wrote:
Cynos, highsec hauler to deliver stuff to your pirate main, anonymous forum and bounty poster alt, Jita market agent....


Sorry, but I am pretty new to EVE.

A lot of what you said wasn't fully understood.


Cyno:
Some ships have built in jump drives. To know where to jump to, someone at the destination has to light a cynosaural field. When you activate the cyno generator on your ship, it lasts for 5 mins. You can't do anything in that time. Now, the cyno can only be activated in low sec or null sec, and you are sitting there for 5 minutes. AND, the cyno is listed in everyone's overview, just like gates and stations and such. The result of all of this is that the person lighting the cyno dies a lot.

You don't want those deaths clogging up the kill boards of your main looking like you suck. So people will often use special accounts just for this.

ALSO, you may jump between two locations a lot. Rather than moving one alt between these locations, you can have an alt in each. light the cyno in one place, jump, pick up some stuff. logoout the first cyno, log back in on the other toon. Light another cyno in the other location, jump again.


hisec hauler:
Let's say you get into a PVP corp that does a lot of war declarations to be able to fight other people. Well, the last thing you want to do is move a lot of stuff around during war. So, you log into this other character, that is not in your PVP corp, so it not at war. He then moves the stuff.

OR, if you hang out in low sec killing people, and have a low sec status, then you can't go into high sec without the navy/police coming after you. So, you have a non-pirate alt that goes into high sec for you.



Anonymous forum poster:
That is what this is. I say things here that makes some people angry. I don't want them taking it out on me in game. So, this character exists ONLY to post things on these forums. I never actually play this character in game.


Anonymous Bounty alt:
If you want to put a bounty on someone, they will get an email saying that you did it. If you don't want them doing the same back, then you can do it with an alt that you don't really play in game.



Jita Market Agent:
Jita solar system is the main trade hub. If you want to get an idea how much you should buy/sell something for in other places, then the Jita price can tell you if the price you are asking/paying is reasonable or not.



I'll add one. Back when I was in null for awhile, we had a service that would move things from Jita to null for us. So, if I wanted something that was not available in my ares, rather than moving my main to high sec to get it, I would log in an lat, buy it, contract it to our service to move it for me. A couple days later, poof, it was jump freightered out to me in null.




Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#27 - 2013-02-05 23:26:14 UTC
For roughly the amount of time it takes to train:

* Advanced Laboratory Operation from 4 to 5 (+1 research slot)

* Advanced Mass Production from 4 to 5 (+1 manufacturing slot)

You can stop training, and train an alt on the same account to level 4 (+10 slots), which can be more time efficient.

I have 7 accounts, with one account dedicated to longer term training of alts that I transfer to the other accounts.
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