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Goons scamed with Super Capitals
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Lodochkin
Doonheim
#1 - 2013-02-04 18:24:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Lodochkin
Hi there.

Today I want to show you all, how’s GOONSWARM can scam in “buying” Super Capitals.

In first time want to notificate you all guys: DO NOT SELL YOUR SupCap TO GOONSWARM!
This is brazen liars. They can not be trusted.(Ofcourse already know that if saw their behavior)

Let me show you how it’s doing.
ARIMAN was sell his nyx first time, ofcourse on official forum, but he didn't got guaranted ISK for nyx..
Application has been the announcement of the sale of the NYX. After some time, eve mail comes from a potential buyer: Xayder.
Further, they have invite to convo and started discussing the deal.
Buyer was Xayder. They work together with Lord Xander - who tried to be guarant. He said that he really important person in Goonswarm.
But I guess that Xayder and Lord Xander just an alts.

Quote:
Lord Xander > Simple I 'm the guarantee
Lord Xander > Im Alliance director and scamming is forbidden for me, Alliance give every month 3 plex for my 3 accounts
Lord Xander > IM in HIGHER LEVEL director
Lord Xander > IF oke, Xayder sent 32B to me and then ariman Give ship to you
Xayder > im waiting, 32B ready
ARIMAN > Lord Xander is alli ceo of goonswarm f. ?
Lord Xander > YES, but Director
Lord Xander > So important director
ARIMAN > Ceo alliance is Retirement fund admin


Ariman was cancel that offer:

Quote:
Lord Xander > Retirement Fund Admin
Lord Xander > He is guarantee ?
Lord Xander > you accept
EndDie > Retirement Fund Admin yes. OK
Retirement Fund Admin > Greetings
Lord Xander > hi my ceo
Retirement Fund Admin > You need a 3rd party for a supercap transaction?
Xayder > pls we are dealing with this
EndDie > Retirement Fund Admin Greetings
EndDie > Retirement Fund Admin yes he will 3rd party transaction
Retirement Fund Admin > So, what's the ship, who's buying/selling, and what's the amount of isk involved?
Retirement Fund Admin > Ok, so here's how this works
Retirement Fund Admin > The buyer sends the isk to me, and I hold the isk; the seller gives the ship to the buyer, then if the fit is correct and there's no funny business, I give the seller the buyer's isk
EndDie > ok
Xayder > I accept i gve money to Retirement Fund Admin total 32B isk
Retirement Fund Admin > Confirm, isk received.
Xayder > yes total 32B^^
Retirement Fund Admin > You may transfer the ship now; when the transfer is complete I will give the isk to ARIMAN


Xayder (buyer) got Nyx after alliance leader(creator Retirement Fund Admin) says that all ok.

Xayder(buyer) said that we must send ISK to him(1.1 bil for t2 rigs) and only THEN he will send promised ISK for NYX

Quote:
Xayder > t1 large rigs?
Xayder > what is wrong with you?
EndDie > ?
Xayder > I dont like ship
Xayder > I give back
EndDie > ?
Xayder > Large Trimark Armor Pump II
Xayder > FOR nyx normally^^
Xayder > 3 x Large Trimark Armor Pump II cost 1.1B in jiat
Xayder > give 1.1B please and guarantee give money to ARIMAN
EndDie > https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=188093&find=unread
Xayder > no 1.1B i buy T2 rigs Large Trimark Armor Pump II
Xayder > please sent 1.1B to Lord Xander
Xayder > NOW
Xayder > hello?
Xayder > u alive?
Xayder > Lord Xander is allaince director and buzy men
Xayder > we are waiting for CEO update of him
Lord Xander > well? i dont have a lot of time so.
EndDie > You have not paid for Nyx and break the contract between us!
Xayder > I dint know you have T1 large rigs
Xayder > pay 1.1kkk isk to Lord Xander
Xayder > and guarantee pay you money
EndDie > Xayder
EndDie > https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=188093&find=unread
Xayder > you pay Lord Xander 1.1B
Xayder > or no money
Xayder > no 1.1kkk isk to Lord Xander
Xayder > now
Xayder > or no money
Xayder > T1 large rigs?
Xayder > realy?
Xayder > ratting nyx?
Xayder > 1.1kkk is to Lord Xander
Xayder > now
Xayder > or no money
Xayder > guarantee dont wait
Xayder > or no money
Xayder > guarantee dont wait
Xayder > soon log of in IRC channel
EndDie > Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Xayder > t1 large rig, bad large rig
Xayder > 3 x T2 large rig cost jita 1.1B isk
Xayder > pay Lord Xander 1.1B now
Xayder > ur change to get the 32B is kis low
EndDie > You've all seen the great
Xayder > oh boy you didnt saw MY great thing
Xayder > now 1.1B isk to Lord Xander
Xayder > any promise guarantee will give money back
Xayder > 32B
Xayder > no pay 1.1B ?
Xayder > guarantee say 'no Rig money, no deal of 32B'
Lord Xander > so i dont have time for this!
Xayder > me neither
Lord Xander > deal off or deal?
ARIMAN > ?
Xayder > 1.1kkk sik to Lord Xander ?
ARIMAN > where your guaranteed a pilot?
Lord Xander > he wont log in before i get the 1.1 bil
Lord Xander > he ALL SO dont have time for this
ARIMAN > Officially, I wrote to you Petition!
Xayder > did you sent them my reagards
Xayder > sent money 1.1KKK to Lord Xander
ARIMAN > Lord Xander
Lord Xander > yes
ARIMAN > your CEO Retirement Fund Admin
Xayder > not online in eve online only in IRC channel
Lord Xander > last chance to pay the 1.1 bil
Lord Xander > YOU try to scam goons!
Lord Xander > ok then wkeep the 32 bil fine
Lord Xander > have a good day


but there wasn't any speak about t2 rigs( also on forum we showed up fit of NYX)
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=188093&find=unread]NYX sell thread
I'm tried to chat with new owner of our nyx, but he wount send ISK for nyx.
OkayRoll let's try send ISK for t2 rig : isk for a rigs

Lord Xander - tried to be fake guarant
Xayder - "buyer"
Retirement Fund Admin - fake guarant

That’s all our story about how to lose NYX without Killmail Big smile
Be carefull all in future with “Goonswarm’s deal”
PS Sorry for my eng
Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#2 - 2013-02-04 18:39:10 UTC
I run a reputable scammer hunter agency. Please deposit 10% of the scammed amount with me, and we will begin our investigation immediately. We have a perfect track record of recovering 100% of scammed funds for our clients. Using our extensive list of spies and contacts, we apply pressure on the scammer until they are forced to refund all stolen ISK.

The sooner you get in touch, the sooner we can recover your money from these evil scammers.

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Derp Durrr
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-02-04 18:40:02 UTC
1 word.
Chribba.

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Sae Eto
Free Ships Jita
#4 - 2013-02-04 18:59:50 UTC
Scamming is encouraged by the Goons, the only things they say you shouldn't do to extort money out of people are:


  • Claim to be a Goonswarm diplomat
  • Suggest someone buy a PLEX with irl money
  • Scam in the newbie/recruitment channels, but pulling people out of those into private chats and scamming them is fine
  • Character scams
  • Scam blues (whether they mean Goons specifically or include their meatshields too I'm not sure)
flakeys
Doomheim
#5 - 2013-02-04 19:02:40 UTC
I'm not even gonna read something wich should be SO GOD DAMN OBVIOUS by now .

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
joyous the
Slippery Penguin
#6 - 2013-02-04 19:04:40 UTC
stupid people lose isk stupidly


good for them.
Barakach
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-02-04 19:18:02 UTC
Sae Eto wrote:
Scamming is encouraged by the Goons, the only things they say you shouldn't do to extort money out of people are:


  • Claim to be a Goonswarm diplomat
  • Suggest someone buy a PLEX with irl money
  • Scam in the newbie/recruitment channels, but pulling people out of those into private chats and scamming them is fine
  • Character scams
  • Scam blues (whether they mean Goons specifically or include their meatshields too I'm not sure)


From what I've heard, all blues.
Alex Grison
Grison Universal
#8 - 2013-02-04 19:32:26 UTC
This is not Market Discussion.

This is Tear Excretion

yes
Xayder
modro
Northern Coalition.
#9 - 2013-02-04 19:34:10 UTC
I almost forgot this v0v

I don't always post, But when i post I do it with my main
Lord Xander
NED-Clan
Goonswarm Federation
#10 - 2013-02-04 19:39:30 UTC
oo yeah, that Nyx, thx
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#11 - 2013-02-04 20:23:50 UTC
flakeys wrote:
I'm not even gonna read something wich should be SO GOD DAMN OBVIOUS by now .

... and your signature is so appropriate for this thread Big smile
Sverige Pahis
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-02-04 20:26:58 UTC
liar
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-02-04 20:43:11 UTC
This is clearly a lie. The Mittani's very name stands for honest deals and transactions throughout EVE.

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Lechert
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2013-02-04 20:45:06 UTC
Clearly a GOON conspiracy.
mostlyharmlesss
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2013-02-04 21:04:36 UTC
Hi Lodochkin

I'm sorry to hear about this. This is not how we conduct business in GSF. It angers me that one of our directors have done this to you. I have spoken to the other officers and we have requested that the person behind the Retirement Fund Admin character steps down.

We will of course reimburse your loss fully, and and take steps so this never happens again. I am required by Corp policy to request that you send me a security deposit of 20% of the amount of ISK that you have lost in the transaction as an investigation fee. You will of course get the ISK back, along with your lost ISK at the end of the investigation.

If you have any further questions, please contact me in-game either via a private conversation or EVE Mail.


Kind regards

MH

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Vurt Konne
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2013-02-04 21:36:30 UTC
Lodochkin, are you actually aware of what went wrong with that deal and what one might do better, or do you try to bring the message to us that no one should do business with Goons?
You do know that it's called THIRD party and not 2nd party for a reason. Rright?

It's no shame to get scammed, happens to the best of us.
But getting scammed in that way ...
flakeys
Doomheim
#17 - 2013-02-04 21:41:36 UTC
And in comes the trash ... move to crime and punisment on it's way , let's take out the garbage.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Candy Oshea
Techfree Investment Group
#18 - 2013-02-04 22:01:29 UTC
nek minute

iCandy  - I have accidently swallowed some Scrabble tiles, my next shit could spell disaster!
Alex Grison
Grison Universal
#19 - 2013-02-04 23:06:23 UTC
flakeys wrote:
And in comes the trash ... move to crime and punisment on it's way , let's take out the garbage.




This will kill the man

yes
Lodochkin
Doonheim
#20 - 2013-02-05 01:49:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Lodochkin
Andski wrote:
This is clearly a lie. The Mittani's very name stands for honest deals and transactions throughout EVE.


guarant wasn't The mittani.
It was Retirement Fund Admin

also, before i was send eve mail to The Mittani with ask for help about that Nyx. But no reply.

Xayder wrote:
I almost forgot this v0v


Ofcourse u are.
And u enoy with it?Reputation and respects coast more than nyx

2Lord Xander,xayder
Are u deny about that u get nyx and 1.1 bil?
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