EVE General Discussion

The other sandbox MMO I am playing now has per item builder name and free form text that allow for "inscriptions".
EvE cannot do it because it won't individually track items. It forces to pack them before selling (removing unique records saves some lots of database space) so all those specific informations get lost.

What would be nice is to also see corp sales instead of just your own sales highlighted .Easier if you are using multiple chars in one hub.

The UI needs an improvement, sure. But will some GUI make it worth your while to do industry?

The question really is, do you want to do industry and have an impact only on the market by driving prices up and down? Or do you want to bring some pvp into industry?

PvP in industry shouldn't be only for playing the 0.01 isk game, it should be about impacting other players based on their decisions. The butterfly effect should be greater. If CVA says that they will ally with some Caldari RP to further enslave the minmatar, some minmatar industry players might not want to sell their goods to CVA. It makes political decisions matter more.

The only driving factor in industry now is ISK and ISK alone. Does everyone want that, or are there some crazy few who want more?

For the shopping list...

Count how many mods if a bpc you plan to make.
Open the bpc to show the materials needed tab.
Right click on a material and select view market orders.
Multiple the quantity needed for one mod by the number of mods you plan to make.
Buy that number.

It really isn't that hard. Sure it's not quite as easy as a shopping list, but it works well without 3rd party apps. And if you can't master that, you probably have trouble figuring out if an item makes a profit.

WELL I DONT KNOW ABOUT ANYONE ELSE BUT IM TIRED OF READING THREADS WHERE FRICKING GOONS MAKE REASONABLE AND BALANCED ARGUMENTS.

COULD YOU AT LEAST CALL HIM "BRO" OR "PUBBIE" OR SOMESUCH JUST TO KEEP UP APPEARANCES?

I would love to see some more functionality on the contract side for retail purchasers. I wonder what the margin would be to set up some very common ship configurations and make contracts for them. You could include options packages and upgrade packages. lol, that might be fun.

I wonder if Eve is the most hardware sensitive game out there.

Nope, never paid my ::tenbux::

And HS industry needs a pretty big whack with a nerfbat. Especially stations (though I use HS station slots constantly and make billions of ISK using them). Because unless HS industry gets whacked with the nerfbat, Nullsec industry can literally never be made competitive without breaking refining forever or creating a hilarious infinite mineral faucet (these are the reasons a <1 material multiplier in Null is not a viable way to fix nullsec industry).

HS has trivial access to markets (a Freighter trip across HS costs less than the fuel for one JF load to anywhere worth going), so-cheap-as-to-be-free slot access (300-700ISK/hr and 1000 ISK to install. I don't even have it on my spreadsheets.), no chance of losing access to your stuff (or being forced to cancel jobs to avoid losing said access), and a hyper-abundance of NPC slots (More slots in one Forge system than any nullsec region, all of which have 0 setup or maintenance costs, unlike Outposts or POSes.).

There is simply no way to buff Nullsec industry to be competitive with HS without taking HS out to the woodshed and beating it about the face with a 2x4. Whether that be (somehow) market access, NPC slots (doesn't fix the fact that HS POSes are essentially safe outside of 3-4jumps from Jita), or (most likely) NPC slots and NPC slot fees.


Anyway, it's not like Goons are a monolithic bloc. There are plenty of examples on the fourms of contentious debate between members of Goonwaffe. People claiming "oh you're just toeing the Goon party line" tend to be simply trying to avoid dealing with the arguments presented (Poisoning the Well or Argumentum ad Hominem, depending on the exact form it takes, in Philosophy/Debate parlance). Not, of course, to say there's no trolling coming out of Goonwaffe, but there are usually clues that make the distinction, well, blindingly obvious.

T2 BPOs set the price on items WHEN AND ONLY WHEN the demand is so small, that it is entirely (or very nearly so) filled by the fixed production quantity that T2 BPOs can provide. Like T2 Plates prior to their buff.

If there weren't T2 BPOs, uncommon items would be prohibitively expensive, leading to fewer people using them, leading to inventors demanding even higher profits due to the low volume, leading to increasing prices, leading to fewer people using them, etc.

As soon as the quantity demanded grows past that base supply, prices shoot up to match the inventor's costs. See my example on Expanded Cargohold IIs which, per CCP Diagoras, are 80% supplied by BPOs and yet are profitable to produce via invention.

Right there with you! I would like to see a mass culling of hisec NPC activity lines, NPC costs that scale based on utilisation, and adjustment of refineries and reprocessing plants into separate activity lines with non-0 activity duration (I.e.: finite m3/hr activity rates), with POS refinery and reprocessing structures working exactly the same way. These are the only changes I would make to industry in one go, because it is a huge change of its own. The theme would be NPC empires attempting to address the capsuleer threat, so other changes across the board would reflect less handholding and spoon feeding of Capsuleers by empires: a reduction of NPC bounties in favour of LP & "blue loot" style items.