EVE General Discussion

Hi!

I just started playing this game a couple of days ago and I quite like the mining aspect of the game.

So far, I have done all career agents quest except the advanced military.

But I have a problem related to mining.

When I go in 0.6 sectors to mine some Pyro, often there are NPC bandits waiting for me. Since I am using the Venture, I don't have any defense mechanism to kill them, I equipped the Venture with 2 mining lasers, 2 mining drones and a Mining laser upgrade. I could use a combat ship and equip it with 2 mining lasers and a combat laser, but I would lack the huge ore cargo space of the Venture (No ship that I own come even close of the 5000m3 of the Venture.

So my question is, what would be the safest way to mine in sectors where NPC bandits are around.
1 - Equip a shield regenerator (medium slot) on my Venture and just let them hit me while I mine.
2 - Remove the mining laser upgrade and replace it with a repairer so I can withstand attacks while repairing
3 - Replace one or both mining drones with combat/defense drones
4 - Use a combat ship and do A LOT of back and forth between the asteroid belt and the station (I could do some jetcan mining, but I am afraid people would steal my ore since I won't be equipped to fight back with a ship equipped toward mining)
5 - Whatever else I didn't think about :)

The only thing I want, is to be able to fill my ship without worrying about dying to NPC bandits. (currently with both lasers, both drones and the upgrade, it takes around 15 minutes I think, should be faster as I gain skills)

Thanks a lot!

OK, first welcome to EVE.

Second, you'd be better served posting this question in either new players forum or even better, the science and industry forum.

Third, what was said above, shield booster and hobgoblin drones for defense. And even better, a healthy respect of when to run. Also as soon as your in position and mining, align your ship to station. The venture is a quick ship, but sometimes seconds matter.

You'll be out of asteroid range before the first cycle ends if you do that.

Hey and welcome...

like some of the other have suggested, use two combat drones, instead of your two mining drones, it takes quite some training to get mining drones wourth it...

Also the ore types you get
Veldsapr and Scordrite start at 1.0 and lower
Pyro(Amarr and Caldari space), Plagioclase(gallante and minmatar) start at 0.8 and lower
Kernite(Amarr and Caldari space), Omber(gallante and minmatar) start at 0,7 and lower

So try go to as high sec as possible for the ore you want, means mostly weaker rats, and your two combat drones should be enough, you could ewen try one combat drone and one salvage drone, the wrecks at belts, pile up and can give a extra bonus ISK income, if salvaged, just a tip

welcome,
there's a lot of good advice in this thread, so i won't repeat it. also remember there is a Science and Industry subsection on this forum. That's the best place for mining or industry related questions. you may even find that a lot of your questions have already been asked and answered. good luck and have fun.

Not sure if...

Get a shield hardener and run that at all times. Doesn't even matter what kind, just seeing one activated makes you look like less of a potential victim.

If you are going to mine in the same general area then set up your ship to handle the enemy rats that will spawn in the belts. Since you are an Amarrr, you are either going to get Sasha or Blood Raider rats.

Your Venture has three mid-slots. You might want to consider putting in either shield hardeners (EM Ward Field I and Thermic Dissipation Field I) which will give you a resistance to EM and thermal damage, but will cost out capacitor (you have to turn them on) or consider fitting shield resistance amplifiers (EM Ward Amplifier I and Themric Dissipation Amplifier I) which do the same thing, but do not give as good of a bonus but also are passive (no capacitor is needed for them to work). In the third mid-slot you might want to consider either a Civilian Shield Booster or a Small Shield Booster (Civilian is actually pretty good for mining and can usually be left on while mining.

Something else to consider would be shield resistance rigs. These will require you to train Mechanic to 3, then Jury Rigging to 3, and then Shield Rigging to 1 to use, but they go in the rig slots (you get three rigs slots on T1 ships). If you were to mount two Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I's and one Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I (for about 85,000 isk each) you would boost the ships defenses to around 49% for EM, and 45% for thermal (meaning you'd be taking only slightly more than half damage, and that is assuming you don't put anything in the mid-slots).

One last thing, even when mining, orbit an asteroid so that you are moving. A moving target is harder to hit and will take less damage. On the larger barge type ships you are too slow to do that, but the Venture is very fast.

Example fit (no skills and it is cap stable, so you can build up from here. Tractor beam to suck in wrecks from the rats you will be killing. Resistances for EM and Thermal damage start at 58% and 60%)

http://i.imgur.com/aQcSeSV.png

[Venture, Starting point]
Mining Laser Upgrade I

Civilian Shield Booster I
EM Ward Amplifier I
Thermic Dissipation Amplifier I

Miner I
Miner I
Small Tractor Beam I

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I


Hobgoblin I x2

Draft Stone, welcome to EVE!
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Not if you align at minimum speed.

52nd to what was said above though. Hobgoblins (preferably IIs) and buffer tank in the mid slots for more Shield HP.