EVE General Discussion

Symmetry is practical within atmospheric flight, because of the bearings it has on navigation, and the effect of uneven wind resistance on aircraft.

In space, symmetry serves no value but aesthetic pleasure. Personally, I am a big fan of ships that are not symmetrical, as I believe they are more realistic/practical. Take the scorpion, for example.

Symmetry is impractical. It creates the need to build and fill additional compartments, that may not otherwise be required, and may potentially block possible weapon mounts, radar systems, etc.

Love the condor as is.

The technical aspect of games being able to defy reality like anime aside, wouldn't you still have to come up against mass and centre of gravity when it concerns thrust, hence a lot of the obscenely placed thrusters on the models. If that holds true then on an out of game aspect you'd be able to streamline production costs by producing the same engines instead of different grades to push different parts of the ship at the same relative force to be able to fly straight. ...

Also the Corax destroyer recently done shows a hint at modernisation of the games newer model lines that serves alongside mainstream sci-fi reinterpretations of WWII.

That said, the Condor isn't all that hideous and has a kind of unique character. A bit of a facelift sometime might be nice. At least compared to something like say, the Bantam, no idea what to make of that thing.

Symmetry in space is for the weak-minded.

The condor is awesome the way it is now.

What I would like is a bit of reworking on the interceptor models (all of them) just like they did with the Stealth bombers.

Not stremlining them (no use in space) but changing the model to be something more than a repainting (sleeker, bigger engines...)

Centre of gravity is irrelevant, as the force of gravity acting on any eve ship, with the except of low orbit tactical strikes for dust, is negligible. However, yes, the center of mass would be off, so thrusters would have to be positioned slightly off. This however, assumes that the mass of the ship is significantly disproportionate.

Which is why I opened up with anime defiance, I use anime loosely though. The odd thing there though is that depicting it all as "subspace bubbles" around a ship while having engines with large swathes of conventional thrust and exhaust out of a conventional direction. The lack of sputters and spurts degenerates to a matter of convenience for the game—not spending the frame power of intermittently changing an effect rapidly when it amounts to the same thing unless it mattered. And if both warp and out of warp travel is constantly the same it's odd to have such a massive gap in speed control and power output if it truly is all the same. That's about where the suspension of disbelief starts to crack for someone newly engaged to the game like myself.


Consider this a degree on the Internet that, there is in fact more than void in space: Nebula What, you think Eve's backdrop is only one shade of black? I kidd. Sorta.

Exactly and I'd accept what you say about making assumptions on it. I'm just not making too many assumptions of Eve's scale and figures to error on the side of game more so than physics—but still giving it a nod. We'll forget massive spinning celestial bodies I think, I don't want my head to hurt too much (never did well in physics, but still remember a thing or two).

A realistic spaceship built for maneuverability and warfare would be a perfect sphere with small engines pointed in every direction. Mass distribution has a significant impact on how agile a ship can be, as does the location of thrusters. A sphere is also a very strong shape for withstanding impacts.

A ship with asymmetries on it would involve a ton of very careful balancing, especially if it had thrusters on asymmetrical protrusions. Extra engineering that is totally unnecessary. Simple, symmetrical and mass-balanced designs would be far superior, and every realistic spacecraft would have engines pointing in basically every single cardinal direction, otherwise it simply could not turn, or would do so unbelievably inefficiently if it had engines off its central axis but pointing "backwards".

Well the prototype remodel they did looked much better, but I think it wasn't used because it simply didn't really seem to fit in the EVE universe in terms of ship design.

Center of gravity = center of mass.

I posted a link to it in my post a couple above yours.