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so i was just denied entry into a corporation because "my risk is too high"

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Jhousetlin Zamayid
#21 - 2013-02-02 16:40:15 UTC
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Piugattuk
Litla Sundlaugin
#22 - 2013-02-03 04:14:52 UTC
You're indy huh, are you mining and selling, mining and building, what are you're long term plans?

One way into the hearts of a null indy corp is to skill to become a Capitol ship builder, elite miner, and T-2 builder.

Wormhole corp much the same and elite salvager, T-3 builder, R&D.

Hi sec depends on specialization of corp.

The reason indy corps are very worried is the awoxing and general grief play of people trying to disrupt the building process.

Although PVP corporations are picky to a point they will pickup noobs as cannon fodder.

Indy corps wouldn't have much use for new folks with 0 skill.

Don't let this discourage you from pursuing an indy toon, having an indy toon is a big help even to yourself.
Keno Skir
#23 - 2013-02-03 18:31:31 UTC
I really wouldn't know one way or another, but i'd be interested to know if OP is farming here for new player friendly corps to AWOX. Just that crack about people being risk averse.. vet like Lol

Try RvB if you want to do pvp, then when rvb gets constrictive you will have skills to be required in a better corp. If you want to do industry get established doing that and see what you can offer an indy corp.

Hiring you on day 1 is like a company hiring someone with no CV, no References and in fact no Proof of Identity or history of being alive at all just walked in off the street. Likely you will end up working at McDonalds' eve equivelant. Once you work them burgers for a month you can get promoted or find a better job and repeat the process. It's just like real life and no more suspicious that i can see. Once you have a few corps on your history that all say ok things about you it will get easier to get hired.

When you join a proper corp you aren't asking to be a part of a friend group or social circle, you are getting a job. The job should benefit you and the company and should be the reason you are working together. New players cost corps in terms of time spent training you and helping you along, it's not worth the risk for every person. Your job is to make it worth while for them to take the time, and they should make it worth your while to stick with them after training.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#24 - 2013-02-03 21:41:57 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
Jhousetlin Zamayid wrote:
i thought eve was a pvp game, but im starting to get the impression that people who pvp are like... ostracized?

Lol

We are... by people who don't like ship on ship violence.

Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Join a pirate corp, they'll take anyone

This is good advice. I've found pirates to be some of the most relaxed and friendly people in the game (if a little twisted and dickish).

You should try to be friends with such people at the very least (I recommend low-sec pirates and/or FW people) and hone your industrial skills. You will find a near endless supply of business with such people and have the most bloodthirsty defenders any industry guy could want.
Cameron Zero
Sebiestor Tribe
#25 - 2013-02-04 00:02:13 UTC
Merouk Baas wrote:
...in high-sec there are people who pretty much want to avoid PVP...


*cough*

Not everyone in high sec, mind you.

"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. …"

Callduron
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#26 - 2013-02-04 01:12:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Callduron
Jhousetlin Zamayid wrote:
i thought eve was a pvp game, but im starting to get the impression that people who pvp are like... ostracized?


Easiest way to get started as a pvp player is to join an alliance known as Red Vs Blue. These guys do non-stop arranged fights in low level ships. Once you make friends with people there you can ask if someone will take you off for a deeper pvp experience. Might be a bit hard financially until you learn to snatch loot fast.

Alternatively faction warfare is very good way to start in pvp and pays much better than RvB.

http://rvbeve.com/forums/index.php?/portal/
http://www.gamerchick.net/2012/06/guide-how-to-join-faction-warfare.html

I write http://stabbedup.blogspot.co.uk/

I post on reddit as /u/callduron.

Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#27 - 2013-02-04 05:28:10 UTC
As a hisec carebear, let me illuminate you on the recruiter's perspective.

Character less than a week old is applying to my corp: fine, I do have recruitment ads running, after all.

Player shows higher than expected awareness of game mechanics, ship fitting, skill planning, etc: spider sense is tingling, this might just be a player who invested the time reading forums and guides before starting an account (like I did before signing up) or it could be en experienced character looking for new PvP opportunities.

API shows any kind of interaction with anyone from nullsec, pirate or griefer corps, or known associates? Instant fail. Toxic character, will not touch.

You might legitimately be a new player who actually does have a friend in a major nullsec alliance. That friend might actually have provided you with material aid with no intention of using you as a spy. But the balance of probabilities is that you are interested in PvP for purposes of tear extraction. You are friends with a CFC/HBC member because you share similar world views. At some time you are going to get bored of life in my hisec industrial corp, and on your way out you will take anything that isn't nailed down, and you will probably take the opportunity to awox and prevent us kicking you out by staying logged in, in space, flying a cloaked ship of some kind. Or maybe your friend just wants an all-access API key so they can keep an eye on your character and advise on training.

Then there is the voice chat interview: is the applicant a stoner and/or displays a short attention span? If I run missions with this guy, is he likely to get bored and start shooting me instead? Will this guy start bumping mining fleets out of boredom?

There are ways I can insulate my corp and alliance from what damage you might cause when we recruit you, but the easiest way of protecting ourselves is to reject any applicant who carries the taint of interaction with nullsec or pirate corps. CCP doesn't give us any rewards for taking a chance on "the new guy". The risk is entirely ours. The only reward is having a new person in the corp who is actually social and participates in group activities.

For some, the reward of new blood is worth the risk of bad blood :)

Kai Sheia
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2013-02-04 07:47:12 UTC
firstly, heres a bit of a joke on the matter....

http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20120625

very fitting, imo.

I don't understand why you are so hung up on joining a corp right off the bat. why not just play the game a little, see what YOU want and then see what fits what you want and feel you can offer?

Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
#29 - 2013-02-04 07:51:45 UTC
Generally speaking, you'll want to join a corp that doesn't have particularly specific requirements at first so that you can **** around and figure out all your crap. Drop that corp and find one that more specifically suits your needs later, when you have a good grasp of what's going on.
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