EVE General Discussion

mining frig variety - the cornerstone of eve

One does not fly in a Venture forever. So why would you want a wide variety of ships when you move on to bigger ships anyway?

Clearly turning the old mining frigates into a NEW SHIP TYPE was a horrid idea.

Besides, mining is its own playstyle, or should we have racial mining barges too?

Whitehound - Good train of logic. You are correct, but this is what I was getting at -

Lets say you had a huge player corp. They are raising their way of life in New Eden. Their corp is expanding with new pilots, and they are doing their production.

Here are some examples -

Its a growing corp of new players, and they are mainly caldari, in caldari space in and around hi sec.
They are collecting Caldari frigate blueprints, and doing research and copying on them etc.
They will make merlins and kestrels and condors, as their fighters in their fleets. For pvp / escorting haulers / protecting miners.
They will make herons for the eyes, for scouting space.
They will make Bantams and Griffins, as their logistics and Ewar support in pvp.
They will produce their mining frigates, for the miners in the corp. The miners will go mine, and the fighter ships will protect them.

The variety of a mining frigate, would for example, make a caldari mining frigate. This ship would have the caldari common tendencies in its stats, like more shield + mid slots. The caldari mining frigate would blend right in with the caldari focused fleet.

I was just using caldari as an example.
Also, the venture is JUST an example, of all the streamlining that is going on. Don't get so short sighted on the mining frigate.

Yes, but what would be the point?

The differing stats are laregely meaningless for something that sits in the belt and mines, whereas it makes a HUGE difference for combat since each race has a different combat style.

Unless you plan on shooting those asteroids, a racial frigate doesn't do you much good.

You don't run mining ships in a shield fleet, or an armor fleet. You run them in a mining fleet. Mining ships are their own type.

We had mining frigates and mining cruiser, the reason they took them out had nothing to do with dumbing eve down or streamlining it; it was because they were pointless.


If you really want to think about it. consider ORE its own faction with its own playstyle separate from Caldari, or Gallente, or Minmatar or Amarr.

okay man. Come on.... When did i ever state, that NO other frigate can mine. I already know this. Almost any ship can do any task. You of course arent going to fit a bantam, like a merlin. The merlin does better at its designed role than a bantam or griffin.

ORE is a faction seperate from the main playable races. ORE has its own unique ships for its preferred play style which is not combat oriented but rather industry oriented. True, there will never be an ORE titan but as a faction it has created what it needs to follow its interests. The Venture, the Mining Barges, the Orca and the Rorqual. These are its line from frigate to capital. Those who chose to pursue a career in mining turns to ORE for their ships and they get ships for the job. The Amarr Empire, Caldari State, Gallente Federation and Minimatar Republic have their own flavors that are separate from ORE.


The US Military designs and builds (or has built whatever) ships that fits its needs. They aren't going to turn to a company like Caterpillar to build Air Craft Carriers just like a construction company isn't going to go to the US Military for dump trucks.

I have the Caldari racial mining barge... it's called a Rokh

You forget that the mining vessels in this game are developed by ORE which isn't a race as such but a company

you could argue that there is only one developer of mining barges and give ORE some competition by introducing another mining company that develops its own competing variant of mining barges / vessels

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