Missions & Complexes

My current skills are as follows:

Cruise Missile V
Missile Bombardment IV
Missile Projection III
Rapid Launch IV
Target Navigation Prediction IV
Warhead Upgrades IV
Caldari Battleship III (Training to IV atm)


Or:

http://eveboard.com/pilot/Ling_Sora


Anyways, I have a bit of money and I'm curious what ship I should use for straight up dps for my somewhat low skills. I don't want to blitz L4s but I'd like to do them faster in my current Raven, hence wanting to upgrade ships.


So, how I see it, CNR gives me another launcher, more tank and that's about it. So yeah, a bit more dps already.

For the Rattlesnake, I don't see a way I can do much with it since I can't use it yet, but I'm willing to train for it. My drone skills aren't that good at all, can't use Sentries, can only use T2 Light/Medium Gallente drones.

SNI I heard has a good tank but subpar DPS compared to CNR.


Also, should I use T2 Launchers or CN Launchers? Seems like the Faction counterpart would do better. Also, should i use T2 Ammo? Faction ammo? Target painters? Is it pointless to target paint something 100km if my skills suck with the fall off?


Thanks.

Yes I am aware of that, but I've seen people refer others to use Rattlesnake, of which why I assumed it would be pointless for me to use right now ^-^

It's about your preferred style, I suppose - CNR for gank, SNI for tank (sadly, the SNI suffers offensively against even the standard Raven, with one fewer low slot for a Ballistic Control and no range bonus at all). The Rattlesnake's a very different beast, though, and really needs good sentry drone skills to deal any appreciable damage - but the Rattlesnake has a monster tank, with shield resist bonuses like the SNI's and an even larger native buffer. Drones need micro-managing with the Retribution AI changes, but with several drone-damage amps and good skills, a Rattlesnake can throw crazy amounts of firepower at its targets...

I just finished training it literally 20 minutes ago. I woke up and made a thread and I'm training it already, just another 20 mins or so till its done at level I.

Paper DPS is not the be all and end all of shooting anything in EVE. I personally find the SNI works better with TP's than the CNR with the extra dps. A rattler with T2 sentries works better than both. That said I don't use any of these ships much anymore.. NM for amarr missions, mach for the rest.

This, with one extra warning:

CNR tends to be a tight fit cpu-wise. Since its main advantage over SNI is the one extra launcher, you really need to build on that. If you find yourself rolling with 3 bcus because you can't tank or can't fit the fourth, chances are you'll be better off with an SNI for now.

As for Rattle, it's a powerful ship, but as others put it, I wouldn't use it until the drone skills are awesome. Chainsaw above says sentries 4, but I'll go a bit further and say 5 for T2 versions - before that, either CNR or navy Domi are a better choice - and a far less costly one, if you lose it.

CNR should be a short term aim I think.
It's better than a raven (obviously) and hasn't the long train time required for a Rattle. From there, the logical move would be Golem but I personally don't rate them.

As mentioned, you really need T2 drones for a ratlle and that is a hefty train time. It is however, worth it, as you can easily thow out 900dps+ with standard ammo and have a huge tank. I also find it a little more flexible than a pure missile boat as the drones can capable of taking out all sizes of npc without any problem.

If you're long term goal (6 month plan) is mission running, I'd go Raven --> CNR --> remap to suit drone training --> rattle.

Looking at your skill set, I would recommend you the SNI over the CNR or Rattle.

1. If you're doing L4 solo, you will need good racial skills for the BS, you currently have BS Caldari 3 which exempts you from the RS.

2. Next, in the same context, the CNR has less of a tank than the SNI and needs more faction/deadspace to make it shine. SNI fits are dead cheap to exceed CNR tank capabilities

3. SNI has 8 mid slots making it very flexible in terms of tanking and offence/electronic gear like TP.

4. Chances of you dying in a CNR (if not fitted well) is significantly higher than a SNI (5 resist per level + 8 slots to play with)

Until you have better BS, missiles, and shield skills, SNI is a good bet at completing missions L4 solo and in a safe manner.

On a sidenote, once you do, you might want to consider the Golem over the CNR, far more efficient or if you're going the Rattle route, ensure you have excellent drones skills not only sentries but the whole works on top of the dual racial skills at V.

he already said he has a raven and wants to do them faster, imo that takes the SNI out of the picture.



exactly! if you can run missions in a raven the only way to go is CNR. Only thing about the rattler is with drones you can semi-afk it.

This is what I'm running now


[Raven Navy Issue, asdf]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Type-D Attenuation Signal Augmentation
Internal Force Field Array I

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
X-Large C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
[empty high slot]

Large Warhead Flare Catalyst I
Large Warhead Flare Catalyst I
Large Warhead Flare Catalyst I


Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x10


I can use T2 launchers, but I'm waiting until all my missile skills are a bit higher so the furies can actually apply all the damage to the BS. Money really isn't a problem, I just don't feel like blinging it out to hard. I use a dmg control because my skills are slightly still a bit low and CPU on a CNR is already tight for me. Eventually going to have 4 BCU. I currently do 478 Paper DPS so, I think I'm going in the right direction for now.