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How much do you think the new BCs will be?

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Sable Blitzmann
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2011-10-25 18:02:50 UTC
Considering that the Cyclone is about half the price of the Hurricane, how much do you think the new BCs will be compared to the tier 2 variety?
Takamori Maruyama
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2011-10-25 18:04:26 UTC
Probably they are going to be hell expensive since its a new item in the market.
Then in 1-2 months the price will drop down and everyone will be using then even as a toothpicker

Loud and clear...

Takamori Maruyama
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2011-10-25 18:04:36 UTC
Probably they are going to be hell expensive since its a new item in the market.
Then in 1-2 months the price will drop down and everyone will be using then even as a toothpicker

Loud and clear...

Myxx
The Scope
#4 - 2011-10-25 18:05:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Myxx
comparable to a low-tier bs. 40 mil-50 mil for the hull, fittings comparable to a bs for the highs (guns) and rest are comparable to standard bcs?

so lets say a tier 3 bc might come out at total cost of 70-100m for standard t1/t2/meta fittings, higher for deadspace/faction/officer fittings.

educated guestimate, give or take a couple dozen mil
Dirk Magnum
Spearhead Endeavors
#5 - 2011-10-25 18:05:35 UTC
We won't know what they'll level out as until we see the mineral requirements, but upon initial release they'll be greatly inflated. I don't imagine that they'll end up costing more than a tier-1 BS after the BPOs have been circulated and researched, but on release I'm guessing 50-60 mil for a short while. /prediction

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Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2011-10-25 18:06:49 UTC
Depends what the blueprints require to manufacture them.

But yeah, they are going to be ridiculously expensive for the first month or so, then as the demand dies down somewhat, and the industrialists actually have to compete with each other, the prices will come down and stabilize.
Cpt Fina
Perkone
Caldari State
#7 - 2011-10-25 18:10:41 UTC
Myxx wrote:
total cost of 70-100m

educated guestimate, give or take a couple dozen mil



So somewhere between 45- 125 mil for a fitted tier 3 BC?

Wow, do you have a guy working on the inside providing you with this info?
Myz Toyou
Nekkid Inc.
#8 - 2011-10-25 18:12:05 UTC
Less then a monocle I bet.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#9 - 2011-10-25 18:12:14 UTC
I expect them to cost more than a T2 BC because those who just have to have the new ship will pay big ISK for them.

Then when the kids are done going "oohhhh" and "ahhhhh" the price should level off. Probably on average cost 25 percent more than a Tier 2 BC.

They'll never be as cheap as a Tier 1. Have seen Cyclones going for 12 million. Wondering if anybody will even bother flying those any more.



Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Skunk Gracklaw
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#10 - 2011-10-25 18:12:23 UTC
As long as they are cheaper than the exhumers they will be used to blow up I'll be happy.
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#11 - 2011-10-25 18:12:55 UTC
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Depends what the blueprints require to manufacture them.

But yeah, they are going to be ridiculously expensive for the first month or so, then as the demand dies down somewhat, and the industrialists actually have to compete with each other, the prices will come down and stabilize.


interesting sig...

I agree the prices will be complete crap for a while but when the FOTM attitude wears off they should even out to base mineral prices.

that is unless they prove to be way OP cap killers in which case you'll never be able to find one for sale Twisted
shellree
Black Star Shipworks
#12 - 2011-10-25 19:25:58 UTC
well if you guys remember and you probally dont the first t3's came out at around 500-750m per hull, subs not included these ships will be larger and better in terms of what they do so expect 500-1b hull cost. subs will prob run another 300m. just hold your horses and wait 3-6 months they will be affordable then.... or run incursions and buy them all on the first day.
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
#13 - 2011-10-25 19:32:34 UTC
They'll drop in price fast because everyone will be on the bandwagon to manufacture them so they can make a lot of isk off the first ones because some people cannot wait to have new stuff, so in turn, they are willing to pay lots of isk to have the new stuff. Happens every time a new ship is released, though none have been released in a while. I judge in the 40-50 million range once everything stabilizes.
toxicvega
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2011-10-25 19:33:04 UTC
shellree wrote:
well if you guys remember and you probally dont the first t3's came out at around 500-750m per hull, subs not included these ships will be larger and better in terms of what they do so expect 500-1b hull cost. subs will prob run another 300m. just hold your horses and wait 3-6 months they will be affordable then.... or run incursions and buy them all on the first day.



T3s were a pain to produce in the begining. You actually had to work your ass off to get the required parts, or pay someone handsomly who had alreay done the work.

Tier 3 BCs are simple. Buy BP, Buy Mins, Produce ad nausem. No more extra work then when any other Tech 1 ship comes out.
Trainwreck McGee
Doomheim
#15 - 2011-10-25 19:33:44 UTC
Funhundred doooolllaaarrrssss

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Botleten
Perkone
Caldari State
#16 - 2011-10-25 19:34:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Botleten
Theyll probably be around 80 mil at first and in the 60-70 mil range once the initial rush to get the new vanity ships wears off. I can see these quickly becoming the new ratting ships of choice.
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#17 - 2011-10-25 19:35:36 UTC
Myrmidon < Tier 3 BC < Dominix: 38 mil.
Wacktopia
Fleet-Up.com
Keep It Simple Software Group
#18 - 2011-10-25 19:36:35 UTC
As much as the minerals.

Remember it's tech 1 so the bpo will be available on the open market but seeded by ccp. I'd guess about 45-65 milnwhen the price settles.

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Myxx
The Scope
#19 - 2011-10-25 19:42:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Myxx
Cpt Fina wrote:
Myxx wrote:
total cost of 70-100m

educated guestimate, give or take a couple dozen mil



So somewhere between 45- 125 mil for a fitted tier 3 BC?

Wow, do you have a guy working on the inside providing you with this info?


Um no? Take the total cost of a decently fitted hurricane, add bs-level guns to it, bs-level ammo and look at the rough costs.

keep in mind, a teir 3 bs costs ~120m for the hull. a tier 1 bs costs ~50-60m for the hull. my guess is just based on observations of how the market has worked over the last few years. I might be wrong, infact its somewhat likely, but its what I expect once prices stabalise.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#20 - 2011-10-25 19:52:27 UTC
shellree wrote:
well if you guys remember and you probally dont the first t3's came out at around 500-750m per hull, subs not included these ships will be larger and better in terms of what they do so expect 500-1b hull cost. subs will prob run another 300m. just hold your horses and wait 3-6 months they will be affordable then.... or run incursions and buy them all on the first day.


The new BCs are Tier 3 Tech1 not Tech3.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

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