EVE General Discussion

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Neo looks around the room, and sees he is the only adult there. Most of the children's heads are shaved. Some are playing, others meditating, or practising their gift. Neo watches in amazement, as a little girl levitates wooden alphabet blocks. He turns around, and sees a skinny bald boy sitting on the floor, holding a spoon, which sways and twists as he bends it with

his mind. Neo crosses over to him, and sits in front of him, interested. The boy looks at Neo as he picks up a spoon and tries to imitate the boy's actions. Despite his best efforts, Neo cannot make it bend.

Spoon Boy : Do not try and bend the spoon...that's impossible. _Instead_

only try to realize the truth...

Neo : What truth?

Spoon Boy : There is no spoon.

Neo : There is no spoon?

Spoon Boy : Then you will see, it is not the _spoon_ that bends, it is

only yourself.

Neo gets the spoon and looks at it. This time he is able to bend it with his mind. It bends, curls round, and bends again. He is fascinated.

bi-liquid flux multipliers, mate

basically, right, if you imagine space as a carpet, right, we can do a thought experiment. there's this like cat pee stain in the middle, and the ship is like an elongated apple, the planet is the flat above you. The carpet is being held about waist-height by four men each holding a corner, but as it's a pentagonal carpet one corner isn't held, which is the corner nearest magnetic north. We drop a frog into the middle of the carpet and it gets eaten by the cat on tuesdays.

That's how warp drives work.

It is true. It really happened. I saw it in a...

This. But only if you ignore the fact that we can see the "real" universe which implies that light interacts with us, and since light has mass, that would imply that we actually do interact with the universe while warping which implies that warping through a planet should be a bad idea.

OTOH, the light we see while in a warp tunnel doesn't appear warped by relativity. Which has all sorts of interesting connotations when one simultaneously traveling faster and slower than the speed of light.

Thank you, must be the only adult (mentally) in this thread.

Yes, real physics and also theoretical science fiction physics. They talked a little about it in my Orbital Mechanics class but wanted more info/thoughts on this. They just scratched the surface (no pun intended).

Not only does it make sense that solid objects not interact with a warping ship it is absolutely essentially for warp drives to work at all.

First of all flying anywhere in a solar system faster then the speed of light is deadly from shifting gravitational fields. Gravity alone would rip apart anything into tiny itty bitty bits instantly if it could interact with an object moving faster then the speed of light.

If somehow gravity did not affect a ship then anything else solid would. Forget planets for a second, a particle of dust hitting something going faster then speed of light would produce devastation on par with nuclear explosions. Bigger things would produce bigger booms.

Therefore we know that anything traveling faster then the speed of light must not interact with objects in normal space.

How does this happen? Heck if we knew that we could do it for real.

However it is easy reasonable to assume for purposes of EVE canon that a field is being produced (bubble if you prefer) that removes the ship from normal space and allows it to not interact with anything in normal space.

How does the pilot still see things then? The answer is they don't. The pilot is in a pod of goo and there are no windows. There are little camera drones everywhere around their ship (these are never seen in game but they are part of the backstory) and they send signals to the pilot so they "see" what is happening. There is no sound in space but the pilot hears explosions etc. This is all from the camera drones interpreting events and sending data to the pilot so they are better oriented. Same applies to the warp field, normal space does not interact with a warping ship but information is interpreted as to what it would look like so the pilot is able to function more efficiently.

Tada, the canon explanation!


Also there is a wizard.

Think of spaces as layers of an onion - the outer most layer is what we interact with in day to day activities with each layer beneath it unable to interact with the layers above and below.

Your warp drive effectively shunts you down a few layers (with certain ships able to go down deeper down, and thus travel faster as the distance is smaller), meaning that you can pass through said objects as if they didn't exist.



This is also how warp interdiction bubbles works - it is essentially like stabbing a knife through the various layers of space and blocking out the pre defined location - the ships computer automatically pulls the ship out of warp to save it becoming lost forever - Only T3 ships have this immunity due to being able to counteract the non targeted interdiction on the fly

For one, we aren't using normal senses to see, so we see whatever the ships' sensor schema delivers. For another, if we are seeing a series of snapshots of photons at sequential stationary points along our path, there would be no dopplering at all.