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PVP'd in high sec
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Lathan Haiko
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#1 - 2011-10-25 17:40:34 UTC
I got killed for the first time yesterday evening in high security space, but it doesn't seem like CONCORD responded. Do I misunderstand the PVP system?

killboard link - http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=10882082

Basically, I was doing a L3 mission in my new Raven (I know my fitting sucks, I'm only 20 days old). This guy warped in, warp jammed me, and killed me. I warped away in my pod as soon as I could, but I didn't see CONCORD appear before I was out. I docked at the nearest station I got an aggression warning (15 min or something), and once that was finished I warped out to my wreck and looted the remains.

Looking at the killboard info, it doesn't look like this guy was killed by CONCORD, and I couldn't find his wreck anywhere either. Do I misunderstand the PVP system? - http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/System_security

If it matters, I didn't fire on his ship or even get him target locked before I died.
Tandros Kreel
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2011-10-25 17:45:13 UTC
did you loot anything that he might have flipped to a can of his own first?

thats the only thing I can think of. killboard site is down currently, so I can't really look at that.

the only other possible explanation is that you somehow wandered into lowsec....
Nathan Jameson
Grumpy Bastards
#3 - 2011-10-25 17:47:01 UTC
If I'm not mistaken, you wouldn't have gotten an aggression warning until you had fired on him in some manner. (Or can flipped, etc.)

If you're certain your ship didn't auto-target him and fire a round off, the only other thing I can think of is smartbombs. The killboard is down or I'd have checked already.

http://www.wormholes.info
Ford Ix Prefect
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2011-10-25 17:50:37 UTC
You joined faction warfare.

Its important to read "quests" in this game before clicking accept.
Sverige Pahis
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#5 - 2011-10-25 17:51:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Sverige Pahis
You guys both dumb he's clearly in faction warfare and was killed by a member of the gallente faction

e:f,b
Sverige Pahis
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2011-10-25 17:53:21 UTC
Also you have no business flying a battleship with a character 20 days old, oh and search battleclinic for some top rated mission fits and work towards those (skills wise), don't worry too much about t2 cruises at first but get your supports and tank to t2 before you go near a battleship ok
Lathan Haiko
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#7 - 2011-10-25 17:53:39 UTC
The killboard link is not working from this forum for some reason, copy and paste it to your address bar.

I'm certain I didn't fire on him. I was looting/salvaging all the wrecks from the NPCs, but I don't think I saw anything flagged as his. How would I know it's his and not mine?

Ford, can you explain more for a newb player? If the quest i'm doing is faction related, how does PVP work?
Ford Ix Prefect
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2011-10-25 17:55:45 UTC
Ford Ix Prefect wrote:
You joined faction warfare.

Its important to read "quests" in this game before clicking accept.


You joined faction warfare.

Faction Warfare
Ford Ix Prefect
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2011-10-25 17:56:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Ford Ix Prefect
The corp you are in is engaged in constant pvp with the corresponding enemy factions. You need to leave your current npc corp to get out of faction warfare.
Jovan Geldon
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2011-10-25 18:03:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Jovan Geldon
Lathan Haiko wrote:
Ford, can you explain more for a newb player? If the quest i'm doing is faction related, how does PVP work?

Relevant part extracted:

Quote:

Effects of Joining Factional Warfare

*snip*


  • Players in FW corporations can shoot any other player belonging to an enemy FW entity, no matter if it is a Militia or player-made corporation.


Example: A player belonging to an enlisted FW player corporation in the Gallente Federation can shoot any other player enlisted with Amarr or Caldari. However that player cannot shoot at a player enlisted in the Minmatar Republic.
Officer Nyota Uhura
#11 - 2011-10-25 18:04:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Officer Nyota Uhura
Lathan Haiko wrote:
PVP'd in high sec


Sir,

I like the sound of that new verb... "PVP'd".

Quote:
0rphanage pvp'd my Badger at Jita undock.

Quote:
There I was, doing havens in my Archon, when DRF pvp'd 10 moms and 5 titans on me.

Quote:
Draketrain pvp'd my butt repeatedly at Amamake.


Sounds right to me.
Lathan Haiko
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#12 - 2011-10-25 18:06:01 UTC
Thanks, this helps a lot! I don't think I'll leave the corp just to avoid PVP (it adds some fun danger to the game), but now I understand it and won't be as surprised next time.
Officer Nyota Uhura
#13 - 2011-10-25 18:12:57 UTC
Quote:
"Two days ago I got pvp'd by Suddenly Ninjas in safe space."

Quote:
"I pvp'd my Dramiel to some fw kunt yesterday... wtf is a Rapier anyway?"


Sir, I think that you've just invented a very versatile new word. Hats off to you.
Lathan Haiko
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#14 - 2011-10-25 18:15:15 UTC
:))
Barakkus
#15 - 2011-10-25 18:37:02 UTC
Lathan Haiko wrote:
Thanks, this helps a lot! I don't think I'll leave the corp just to avoid PVP (it adds some fun danger to the game), but now I understand it and won't be as surprised next time.



I think you'll do alright in this game.

http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc
Kitty McKitty
In Praise Of Shadows
#16 - 2011-10-25 19:05:59 UTC
Lathan Haiko wrote:
Thanks, this helps a lot! I don't think I'll leave the corp just to avoid PVP (it adds some fun danger to the game), but now I understand it and won't be as surprised next time.

Keep an eye on local for nastyface reds and act accordingly. Also learn how to d-scan. Read a pvp guide like wensleys rifter guide (google it) because it isn't just handy for people looking to pew pew, it can save your ass too Cool

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FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#17 - 2011-10-25 23:13:29 UTC
Officer Nyota Uhura wrote:
Sir, I think that you've just invented a very versatile new word. Hats off to you.

Don't pvp me bro?

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2011-10-26 05:48:49 UTC
Why would they violence your boat? Shocked

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

Want to see what Surf is training or how little isk Surf has?  http://eveboard.com/pilot/Surfin%27s_PlunderBunny
Nathan Jameson
Grumpy Bastards
#19 - 2011-10-26 06:27:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Nathan Jameson
Sverige Pahis wrote:
You guys both dumb he's clearly in faction warfare and was killed by a member of the gallente faction

e:f,b


D'oh. I suck.

To be honest, I've never participated in FW, and the thought never occurred to me.

EDIT: STOP BLOWING HOLES IN MY SHIP

http://www.wormholes.info
Jooce McNasty
Islefive Consulting
#20 - 2011-10-26 08:33:16 UTC
Lathan Haiko wrote:
Thanks, this helps a lot! I don't think I'll leave the corp just to avoid PVP (it adds some fun danger to the game), but now I understand it and won't be as surprised next time.



WOW!? If this is what you like you will enjoy this game for years to come.

Also like others have stated you should in no way shape or form be in a Battle Ship, you might be better off working towards cruiser skills and then battle cruiser skills before you move into a BS. You will find that Battle Cruisers are suitable for alot of tasks that Battle ships can do, since you are Caldari trained you have one of the best PVP Battle cruisers available. It has an amazing tank and can deal any form of damage. Look into a Drake.
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