Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Try with other alt. No, i aligned to safepos just like my friend too, my friend warped to safepos, my ship was not bumped, not scrambled, the ship didn't changed aligned point, just not warped out.
And after 30 sec the cynabal landed on anomaly and scrambled me.
And other thing i drove out the cynabal and he warped off in half srtucture, because i used on him two web and he couldn't keep out the distance from blaster range, but i still couldn't warp out when he escaped, no matter how i tried to warp out and his two friend came in to anomaly too.

One more thing 2 days ago, i was in a fleet op, the whole fleet got same bug, when we tried to warp out from the combat zone at low sec,.Just fixed after when the fleet commander logged out and back.

There is nothing broke about AFK cloaking, the only thing thats broke (if I had to point to something that is broke in regards to cloaking) is that there is literally nothing you can do about an AFK cloaker. If I were to suggest a solution to this, it would be making it possible to scan down a cloaked ship only under the conditions that you had all scanning skills to level 5 and the skills associated with the ship that is cloaked, after all it would only make sense that you should have to know something about a cloaked enemy vessel and how it operates in order to scan it down. So your skills would in a sense have to look like this.

Astrometrics - level 5

Astrometric Pinpointing - level 5

Astrometric Range Finding - level 5

Astrometric Aquisition - level 5

Cloaking, Covert Ops, Recon Ships, and Black Ops, would all give a 1% bonus per level to the chance of scanning down a cloaked ship.

Even so, I still would not mess with this too much.

This is not bad idea, really. But you have a problem. When the cloaked ship moving somewhere (align/approach) you never wont be decloaking.

You can't do anything about an afk cloaker but at the same time he can't do anything about you.

But you dont know from him, he when AFK or not. He is potentionaly danger everytime, because he can come back from AFK anytime while you still dont see he is AFK or not.
But you are no potentionaly danger for him, because you can't catch him, because the cloaked ship unscanable.
That's why they can make economical damage, because they are always potential danger.

Same treatment ? What do you mean ? There is no same treatment. Obviously CCP catters toward ASB. Fozzie even admitted that ASB is superior and it will remain superior (cba to link), but he said something like "we already have enough modules that cannot be shutdown by another player ... ASB" ... so it's ok for ASB to be immune to neuts, but aar cannot. If that is not enough for you then maybe read new AAR and that it's 1 module max per ship, where obviously you can put on ship as many asbs as you want.

Actually suggesting that the problem begins with the pilot using AFK Cloaking tactics, ignores enough to be considered mislead.

I shall try to explain a few details that are usually glossed over crudely, but hold the truth.

AFK Cloaking: This is done in response to Local Chat flawlessly reporting pilot presence. It dumbs down the interaction between pilots by outright telling all parties who is present. Without this crutch, use of sensors, strategy, and cooperation would be needed to fill the void.
What does it achieve?
It creates a flaw in the usual flow of cause and effect for life in many systems. Often, a neutral or hostile pilot is seen entering, and activity is suspended until they leave. There is trivial risk, as standard procedure often involves being ready to get safe in the time frame provided by this instant alarm. Hostile pilots who refuse to leave are subsequently hunted down.
When the "AFK Cloaking" pilot enters, he disrupts this process, by not leaving. Further, since this intel tool persistently shows him present, the default response of suspending activity is perpetually pushed as chosen reaction.
This devalues the intel tool, as it is now being used against the native PvE pilots instead of helping them.
If local were removed, sensors strategy and cooperation would be placed as valuable means of protecting PvE income assets.
It would also be pointless to AFK cloak, as noone would be aware of your presence while you were passive.
It is widely anticipated that any change to local which stopped free cloaking awareness would also include a means to hunt cloaked ships.

Summary: That free intel tool favored by so many can be used by the hunters too.

Hot Dropping: Bridging is intended to bypass reinforced blockades and travel time. Here, it has been fine tuned to avoid advertising the presence of a fleet to the free intel tool as well by delaying the easily recognizable population spike till the last possible moment. The intention is to deny the warning local provides, although it still reports the presence of the cyno boat enough to be associated with AFK Cloaking instead.
Quite simply, while PvE pilots would never resume regular activities with a hostile fleet present, they are sometimes willing to gamble over whether a cloaked vessel represents that level of threat at a given time.

Sorry about the length, but the mindless repetition of "AFK Cloaking is bad mmkay" sounds foolish.

Ok i know i did a bit of offtopic , but let's keep facts straight. ASB =/ AAR. The first one is absolutely superior. It really pains when people see any anything in common other than "ancilary".

About AFK cloaking i can just say. It's not problem so what about you live with it ? I kinda even find it funny that people are scared of someone else being in Local :D. Grow some balls and live with it. Being such coward that you need to be alone in local to feel safe is funny.

AFK cloaking is not a problem. Is a lifestyle.

Except the game is not balanced at all right now and as far as i can tell you are arguing to give even more advantages to the cloaking squad.

You seem to think that everyone against AFK cloaking is a PvE carebear and shouldn't really have an opinion on this. It is extremely obvious that a PvE ship is going to get ****** vs a PvP ship/fleet.

You simply cannot do anything against AFK cloakers, you don't know if they are AFK or actually active and you have no way of countering them. Having them not show up if they are cloaked or inactive is stupid as **** because it just means you have even less way of knowing if you're about to get ganked.