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So, you got any evidence that CCP turns a blind eye to botting by anyone? Let alone preferentially to botting by any certain group?

Gotta love the tinfoil brigade.

FYP*


*Audio potentially NSFW.

Are the audits done by the same guys who put this together? http://i.imgur.com/Sjl7a.png

Just like I don't care if my friends smoke pot*.
Not caring to report someone is not anything like the same thing as supporting it or being involved in it.

Basically, you're implying that I'm a drug dealer on the basis of evidence that I don't care to report my friends for smoking pot.

*Illegal in my jurisdiction.

Also, your evidence does nothing to support either your initial nor your secondary claims, which, if we strip out the weasely bull were:

1. Goons are more likely to RMT than members of other demographic groups,
2. A significant portion of HS botters are Goons, and
3. CCP turns a blind eye towards bad behavior by goons.

In fact, your evidence directly contradicts your third claim.

1. How many goons were banned during the rmt purge?
How many goon pets were banned?

Legit question.
Pretty blunt....no implied claims.
Proof the goons have engaged in RMT along with PL.
http://evenews24.com/2011/08/31/serious-business-goonswarm-federation-pilot-kicked-for-rmting-his-titan-to-pandemic-legion/

Mittani: he sold a titan to our enemies and so i booted him
Mittani: i don’t care about him rmting, i’m not ccp’s cop, the issue is that he sold it to our foes

2. Saying a power bloc can use bots in high sec. RMT accounts are not limited to main characters in alliances.
After that i mentioned how PL had a cheater/exploiter in their alliance and Goons exploited the FW system.

3. Curious as to where CCP turns a blind eye. Me thinking they should be perma banned for exploiting something is just emergent game play in others eyes. They exploited a flaw in the game that made them billions of isk and fuckered the economy. Hell they posted about it. While it was an exploit it was not a bannable exploit. I think it should have been.
But that is my two cents.

RMT is bad mmmkay.
Now if you will respond to what i actually said instead of hyping what i said then i am sure you will see that i am correct.

ex·ploit (ksploit, k-sploit)

1. To employ to the greatest possible advantage: exploit one's talents.
2. To make use of selfishly or unethically:
3. To advertise; promote.

I of course am referring to number 2 and possibly 1.

Are you on the defensive because you know it's true....or are you daft enough to believe that i am full of ****?

My question was not directed at Ruby. He is the one that took up the crusade.
The question was a bit rhetorical as i am well aware CCP does not discuss bans.

The thing is. They might not know exactly how many. But they know there were quite a few.

And because no one can say exactly how many the question becomes baseless?
I don't think so.
There were many people banned. And Goonswarm had their fair share banned.
And so did their pets.
(just to clarify for you. Pets does not equal CCP)

In the end the correct answer is "More than we want to admit. So we will fight any claims because no one else knows for sure."

It was legitimate in its intent.



It was intended to shut up the Goon *****.
Which it did.

Though i never thought someone from your alliance would respond.
I mean. Your alliance had known cheaters/exploiters using a program to kill people.
And your alliance mates did some RMT to buy some space pixels. But hey....It probably wasn't you.
Hell you may not even know what i am talking about. So do some research and ask around. If you hear two different stories from your own alliance mates. Then maybe....just maybe all this arguing earned you some enlightenment.

You can talk me and what i brought up in circles until you're dizzy.
Are we really going to argue over what someone may have implied.
I surely didn't imply anything to you.
I asked a Goon member a legitimate rhetorical question to imply they have no room to talk about botting/RMT.
I was not claiming they had no right to talk.
It was implied and not a claim of wrong doing.
I don't need to claim because they, you, and not enough of everyone else know this.
Your crusade is to make me look bad. Congrats if you did.
I have never botted or been a party to any botting. I have never known anyone in this game to cheat in any way in any corp/alliance i have been in.
I have reported a few scammers for spamming local. I have reported a few i thought may be bots using the in game report function.

Now you on the other hand. Really need to look inward.
You know should know your alliance was involved in RMT. As well as the alliance you are crusading for.
You should know that some of your current members used a program to bypass local.
If you do you are still in public denial. Which is expected. No one wants to admit the gory little details.
Which you haven't done and likely won't.
That does not stop any of it from being true.

I am just pointing it out yet again for the general public.
Because i am of the opinion they should read it again and again.


There you go.

I see, you don't know what a rhetorical question is. You also don't seem to understand the concept of "poisoning the well" or why it's not done.

By the way, bringing up years old exploits is kind of silly. It's like claiming that ex-BoB can't talk about anything because of T20.
Also, given that anyone caught using exploits gets banned, I'm not sure where you're getting "current" members.
And, of course, if you have evidence of RMT activity at an alliance level (or any level, really), why haven't you sent it to CCP?

ITT: Conspiracy theories.

Why does The Mittani need to RMT isk when he is just going to build up TheMittani.Com, sell it and then double retire?