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Meditation on: Truth & Freedom
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Streya Jormagdnir
Alexylva Paradox
#41 - 2013-02-02 19:14:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Streya Jormagdnir
Scherezad wrote:
Unmoving, improves;
Unending time.
Uncauséd, approves;
Emerging sublime.

Unthinking, opines;
Ascending choir.
Unbounded, defines;
Converging prior.

What am I?


Mathematics?

I am also a human, straggling between the present world... and our future. I am a regulator, a coordinator, one who is meant to guide the way.

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Scherezad
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#42 - 2013-02-02 19:16:29 UTC
Mekhana wrote:
That is null considering we're talking about something older than the concept of time, older than any human will ever be able to trace or explain.

Again, the only certainty of time is change.


I fear you have it backwards, ma'am.

The only certainty of change is time. Time itself is changeless, symmetric, and of aleph-null magnitude to the best of our knowledge.

You may feel it a needless distinction. I disagree.
Mekhana
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2013-02-02 20:18:38 UTC
I didn't mean time itself changes, I meant time is the cause of change.

I actually agree with your analogy.

Vide longe er eros di Luminaire VII, uni canse pra krage e determiniex! Sange por Sange! Descanse bravex eros, mie freires. Mortir por vostre Liberete, farmilie, ide e amis. lons Proviste sen mort! Luminaire liber mas! 
von Khan
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#44 - 2013-02-02 20:30:01 UTC
So now your certain that time is the one that doesn't change, but change is certain.

What happens when you jump on those gates then?

von Khan
Mekhana
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2013-02-02 20:34:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Mekhana
I never said time itself changes. That is like saying the laws of physics can change for no reason.

And who knows? What will happen to me? What's on the other side? What will be behind me?

Whatever the universe throws at me, I'll be ready to adapt to it and act accordingly.

Maybe its because I don't pretend and act like I have all the answers to life's questions.

Vide longe er eros di Luminaire VII, uni canse pra krage e determiniex! Sange por Sange! Descanse bravex eros, mie freires. Mortir por vostre Liberete, farmilie, ide e amis. lons Proviste sen mort! Luminaire liber mas! 
von Khan
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#46 - 2013-02-02 20:57:45 UTC
I'm sure you will adapt to it and act accordingly Ms Mekhana, but remember;

"There's no knowledge in certainty."

So we cant really be certain ....

von Khan
Mekhana
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2013-02-02 21:14:12 UTC
Meanwhile I'll be like water. I'll flow, adapt, I'll yield and I'll not tarry.

Vide longe er eros di Luminaire VII, uni canse pra krage e determiniex! Sange por Sange! Descanse bravex eros, mie freires. Mortir por vostre Liberete, farmilie, ide e amis. lons Proviste sen mort! Luminaire liber mas! 
Scherezad
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#48 - 2013-02-02 21:26:10 UTC
Mekhana wrote:
I didn't mean time itself changes, I meant time is the cause of change.

I actually agree with your analogy.


I apologize, ma'am. I took your original statement "The only certainty of time is change" to imply that change is a certain factor and will always happen. This is not so.

You are correct in saying that time is a necessary condition of change. However, it, is not sufficient.
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