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Iceland denies the FBI entry

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Shalia Ripper
#21 - 2013-02-02 02:23:44 UTC
FBI Director stated "We thought it was part of Alaska"

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Jhagiti Tyran
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#22 - 2013-02-02 09:30:37 UTC
Its a bit of diplomatic faux pas to send any kind of law enforcement agents to another country without permission or notification in the first place. The Assange case is controversial enough without making it worse. I would not be surprised if they didn't ask permission precisely because they expected that the Icelandic authorities didn't want to cooperate.
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
#23 - 2013-02-02 10:55:52 UTC
They probably thought the FBI was after their cod. Icelanders are very protective about their cod.

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jason hill
Red vs Blue Flight Academy
#24 - 2013-02-02 12:03:24 UTC
I thought Iceland had already been classed as a rogue state by the UK when gordon brown asked for our money back from the icelandic banks when they went **** up . rofl i still remember the look on his face on the tv when iceland stuck two fingers up at him Big smile...
Rana Ash
Gradient
Electus Matari
#25 - 2013-02-02 12:29:50 UTC
Thank you for explaining the fbi thing, i had no idea. Live and learn
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#26 - 2013-02-02 14:40:42 UTC
Rana Ash wrote:
FBI is allowed to do investigations on foreign soil?, i thought they where just allowed to work in the US..



This is America we are talking about. Rules do not actually exist for any of its operations.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#27 - 2013-02-02 14:42:10 UTC
Bane Necran wrote:
silens vesica wrote:
Not entirely so - FBI is allowed to go where their investigations lead, so long as they're investigating a crime against the US or which took place in the US (they sometime investigate crimes against other countries which were conducted in US territory) and they obtain the necessary local permissions.

Seems like some Agent-in-Charge failed to cross all 'I"s and dot all "T"s.
Ooops!


I think they may be used to not having to ask permission of 'friendly' countries, even if they're technically supposed to. They just announce they've arrived like they did here and that's usually enough.

They may have also not wanted to give any warning before they arrived so the people being investigated couldn't prepare.


I would think that normally they would send in the CIA instead.

Oh, that's right. Even the head of the CIA couldn't even keep a romantic affair secret. NVM.

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HankMurphy
Pelennor Swarm
Outer Planets Association
#28 - 2013-02-02 15:24:48 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:


Oh, that's right. Even the head of the CIA couldn't even keep a romantic affair secret. NVM.


little do we know,
it was all part of the plan Cool

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#29 - 2013-02-02 17:57:00 UTC
HankMurphy wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:


Oh, that's right. Even the head of the CIA couldn't even keep a romantic affair secret. NVM.


little do we know,
it was all part of the plan Cool

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Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#30 - 2013-02-03 04:05:50 UTC
If they attempted to land in Iceland and start investigations with no communications with local authorities, I can understand them being sent home. 
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Astenion
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2013-02-03 13:15:37 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Bane Necran wrote:
silens vesica wrote:
Not entirely so - FBI is allowed to go where their investigations lead, so long as they're investigating a crime against the US or which took place in the US (they sometime investigate crimes against other countries which were conducted in US territory) and they obtain the necessary local permissions.

Seems like some Agent-in-Charge failed to cross all 'I"s and dot all "T"s.
Ooops!


I think they may be used to not having to ask permission of 'friendly' countries, even if they're technically supposed to. They just announce they've arrived like they did here and that's usually enough.

They may have also not wanted to give any warning before they arrived so the people being investigated couldn't prepare.


I would think that normally they would send in the CIA instead.

Oh, that's right. Even the head of the CIA couldn't even keep a romantic affair secret. NVM.


Why would they send the CIA? The CIA isn't law enforcement and they weren't there to collect intelligence.

FBI - Federal Bureau of Investigation

CIA - Central Intelligence Agency

See the difference?
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#32 - 2013-02-03 13:17:40 UTC
Astenion wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Bane Necran wrote:
silens vesica wrote:
Not entirely so - FBI is allowed to go where their investigations lead, so long as they're investigating a crime against the US or which took place in the US (they sometime investigate crimes against other countries which were conducted in US territory) and they obtain the necessary local permissions.

Seems like some Agent-in-Charge failed to cross all 'I"s and dot all "T"s.
Ooops!


I think they may be used to not having to ask permission of 'friendly' countries, even if they're technically supposed to. They just announce they've arrived like they did here and that's usually enough.

They may have also not wanted to give any warning before they arrived so the people being investigated couldn't prepare.


I would think that normally they would send in the CIA instead.

Oh, that's right. Even the head of the CIA couldn't even keep a romantic affair secret. NVM.


Why would they send the CIA? The CIA isn't law enforcement and they weren't there to collect intelligence.

FBI - Federal Bureau of Investigation

CIA - Central Intelligence Agency

See the difference?



Settle down.

It was a joke. Jeez, u mad about it bro ?

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Astenion
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2013-02-03 13:41:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Astenion
Loco Kamikaze wrote:
there's a bit of history between the US and Iceland, involves a US occupation. until quite recently.


Ahem, no...there was no US OCCUPATION of Iceland. Presence and occupation are two different things.

Iceland hosted US Navy and Air Force installations BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO MILITARY WHATSOEVER and they were a key strategic point in the Cold War for both East and West. Iceland felt the partnership was beneficial to both parties, as the US had a key position which was a deterrent for Soviet invasion while Iceland was protected by American forces.

Now, many of their installations have shut down due to zero need for an American presence there. There are still some ongoing operations, but nothing like the Cold War era.

NATO countries can kick out Americans from their bases any time they want to, that's part of the agreement. They never do because the rent the US pays to use their bases in Italy, Germany, the UK, Iceland, etc. is good for their economy and politicians don't wanna get rid of the golden goose. In fact, the US SHOULDN'T EVEN BE IN NATO because the entire reason for its existence was to help fledgeling EU countries after WW2 get back on their feet and rebuild their military, something they never did, at least never to the extent that they would be able to defend themselves from a major threat without American support. They were afraid of Soviet invasion after the war and an extremely weak Europe would have been very easy to conquer. Hence, American presence.

I'm with former Secretary of Defense Gates when he said the US has no business in NATO, that the EU can wear big boy pants now and take care of themselves.
Astenion
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2013-02-03 13:44:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Astenion
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Astenion wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Bane Necran wrote:
silens vesica wrote:
Not entirely so - FBI is allowed to go where their investigations lead, so long as they're investigating a crime against the US or which took place in the US (they sometime investigate crimes against other countries which were conducted in US territory) and they obtain the necessary local permissions.

Seems like some Agent-in-Charge failed to cross all 'I"s and dot all "T"s.
Ooops!


I think they may be used to not having to ask permission of 'friendly' countries, even if they're technically supposed to. They just announce they've arrived like they did here and that's usually enough.

They may have also not wanted to give any warning before they arrived so the people being investigated couldn't prepare.


I would think that normally they would send in the CIA instead.

Oh, that's right. Even the head of the CIA couldn't even keep a romantic affair secret. NVM.


Why would they send the CIA? The CIA isn't law enforcement and they weren't there to collect intelligence.

FBI - Federal Bureau of Investigation

CIA - Central Intelligence Agency

See the difference?



Settle down.

It was a joke. Jeez, u mad about it bro ?


You should really work on being funny, then. And no, I am not mad about it. Bro. /Sheldon

Some dumbass in the FBI "forgot" to complete the required paperwork and bureaucracy to investigate on foreign soil, so naturally the host country isn't going to give them free reign over their own sovereignty. They deny them access to investigate, end of story. Big deal, nothing to see here. Don't get me wrong...I think it's HILARIOUS. I just don't understand what the FBI was thinking; did they think Iceland wouldn't mind? Everyone knows Scandinavia (you can add Iceland to that as well) despises America. The people who say they don't are just being friendly or are ignorant and the only thing they know about Scandinavia is black metal, IKEA, and the Dudesons. This goes to show just how out of touch the FBI is to not have foreseen this.
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#35 - 2013-02-04 15:55:33 UTC  |  Edited by: silens vesica
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:

I would think that normally they would send in the CIA instead.

Being an intelligence collection agency, the CIA is singularly un-suited to undertaking a law-enforcement role, not to mention that most foriegn activities of the CIA are at least somewhat 'covert' in nature, which is also generally unsuited to lawenforcement activities.

FBI was the correct agency to send - presuming they bothered to abide by the rules, which, it appears, they did not.


Astenion wrote:
Loco Kamikaze wrote:
there's a bit of history between the US and Iceland, involves a US occupation. until quite recently.


Ahem, no...there was no US OCCUPATION of Iceland. Presence and occupation are two different things.

I personally know several folks as were stationed in Iceland. If anything, it was quite the opposite of 'occupation' (and anyone who claims it *was* an occupation is either ignorant, or selling something). Few servicemen were allowed to take quarters off base. Uniforms NOT to be worn off base. Keflavik was very nearly under quarantine status.
Despite the hostile environement, NAS Keflavic provided almost 1000 locals employment.

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Harvister
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#36 - 2013-02-04 16:49:20 UTC
thumbs up for island i'll have my honeymoon there \o/
Tul Breetai
Impromptu Asset Requisition
#37 - 2013-02-04 18:02:07 UTC
For the FBI-CIA people, FBI is domestic intelligence, CIA is foreign intelligence. HOWEVER, the FBI also doubles as a federal law enforcement agency. Ur all right.

Obligatory joke: The CIA made the president kick them out over inter-agency rivalries.

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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#38 - 2013-02-04 18:25:09 UTC
Tul Breetai wrote:
For the FBI-CIA people, FBI is domestic intelligence, CIA is foreign intelligence. HOWEVER, the FBI also doubles as a federal law enforcement agency. Ur all right.

Actually, FBI is a Law Enforcement Agency which also undertakes counter-intelligence activies domestically. CIA handles counter-intelligence outside the US, as well as conducting intelligeence activities aimed at foreign entities. The FBI's domestic intelligence activities (as opposed to counter-intelligence activities) are in support of its role as a law enforcement agency.

But that's enough splitting hairs. Let's get back to pointing our fingers and laughing at the dumb Fibbies as what got their pee-pee's whacked.

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Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
#39 - 2013-02-04 21:32:44 UTC
Love Iceland.

Goddamn rednecks and their terror tactics.

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Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#40 - 2013-02-04 22:30:38 UTC
Vaju Enki wrote:
Love Iceland.

Goddamn rednecks and their terror tactics.


When will you people learn that redneck is another term for cowboy and is not considered an insult.

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