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Dev Blog: The Battle of Asakai and Poinen Must Burn by the numbers.

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CCP Quant
C C P
C C P Alliance
#21 - 2013-01-29 22:45:00 UTC
Marbin Drakon wrote:
Is it possible to get data on participation (particularly the RvB even) by character age?

I'll need to check if that is possible, we need to be careful about not disclosing too much information :)

Vyktor Abyss wrote:
"still allowed a more graceful degradation than the unpredictable battles of old"
You have quite a way with words Quant - this made me lol Blink
I just hope I'm not in a box by then.


I quoted CCP Masterplan on the entire Lag part so he's the master of words here :)
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#22 - 2013-01-29 23:03:58 UTC
CCP Quant wrote:
Marbin Drakon wrote:
Is it possible to get data on participation (particularly the RvB even) by character age?

I'll need to check if that is possible, we need to be careful about not disclosing too much information :)

Vyktor Abyss wrote:
"still allowed a more graceful degradation than the unpredictable battles of old"
You have quite a way with words Quant - this made me lol Blink
I just hope I'm not in a box by then.


I quoted CCP Masterplan on the entire Lag part so he's the master of words here :)


I notice a severe lack of posting by yourself. This just won't do.

Woo! CSM XI!

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Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
CCP Quant
C C P
C C P Alliance
#23 - 2013-01-29 23:10:23 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:

I notice a severe lack of posting by yourself. This just won't do.


I'm definitely working on it, I beg for mercy sir ! Lol
CCP Masterplan
C C P
C C P Alliance
#24 - 2013-01-29 23:12:14 UTC
Those were indeed my words. Ultimately whatever we do to increase capacity, there will probably always be more players ready to consume it all. The goal is to manage the situation as best as possible when this happens (eg TiDi)

"This one time, on patch day..."

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Komen
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2013-01-30 07:17:30 UTC
CCP Quant wrote:
Steve Ronuken wrote:

I notice a severe lack of posting by yourself. This just won't do.


I'm definitely working on it, I beg for mercy sir ! Lol


Mercy? In MY Eve?

Get out.






































Nice graphs.
ITTigerClawIK
Galactic Rangers
#26 - 2013-01-30 09:23:37 UTC
I.... LOVE..... GRAPHS!!!!!!
Charles Javeroux
INTERSTELLAR CREDIT
#27 - 2013-01-30 10:42:56 UTC
So this Dev blog is the proof that EVE economy is now so complex and valuable that CCP needs a team of bankers and economists to tackle the data mining. Big smile
WisdomLikeSilence
BurgerkingTM
#28 - 2013-01-30 13:46:44 UTC
So the main thing to take away from all this is... boost fighter drones...
Sir SmashAlot
The League of Extraordinary Opportunists
Intergalactic Conservation Movement
#29 - 2013-01-30 15:24:04 UTC
Thank you for not only lots of amazing graphs but also for promptly posting this information while the events are still very fresh in everyone's mind.

It was an amazing gaming experience, though the client was slow to respond, I never disconnected and the client did do everything I asked it to do.

High five to all the people that helped make an experience that like happen. I can only hope Moores Law applies to EVE spaceship combat for many years to come. Big smile

Smash
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#30 - 2013-01-30 16:05:17 UTC
CCP Masterplan wrote:
Those were indeed my words. Ultimately whatever we do to increase capacity, there will probably always be more players ready to consume it all. The goal is to manage the situation as best as possible when this happens (eg TiDi)

Not quite true. There are only so many active accounts. If they could all log in, all go to one system and all fight, without lag or TiDi, then you would have adequate hardware.

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Traidir
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#31 - 2013-01-30 18:34:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Traidir
The kill ratio graph should be the RvB flag.

Also, the Average Damage graph does not show potentially avoided damage as via speed tanking does it? Minmatar ships would probably fare far better by that rubric.

Meanwhile, the Punisher has 5% bonus/lvl to armor resistances which would make it also appear lower on the chart compared to the "Potential" damage

The Incursus is only so high because of it's 10% bonus/lvl to Armor Repairer effectiveness...
Illectroculus Defined
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#32 - 2013-01-30 22:21:46 UTC


" I can promise you that we’ll have some wonderful time-lapse statistics of New Eden to show you on Fanfest. "

What a Brilliant Idea.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDR5TaP_VqY

I mean if you run out of spare time you can always show my movie.
CCP Quant
C C P
C C P Alliance
#33 - 2013-01-31 01:53:31 UTC
Traidir wrote:
The kill ratio graph should be the RvB flag.

Also, the Average Damage graph does not show potentially avoided damage as via speed tanking does it? Minmatar ships would probably fare far better by that rubric.

Meanwhile, the Punisher has 5% bonus/lvl to armor resistances which would make it also appear lower on the chart compared to the "Potential" damage

The Incursus is only so high because of it's 10% bonus/lvl to Armor Repairer effectiveness...


You are absolutely right, the damage/tank was from the raw kill logs/reports. Although possible, it could get a little time consuming to take speed tanking into account Big smile

Illectroculus Defined wrote:


" I can promise you that we’ll have some wonderful time-lapse statistics of New Eden to show you on Fanfest. "

What a Brilliant Idea.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDR5TaP_VqY

I mean if you run out of spare time you can always show my movie.


Brilliant work Smile in some cases we might be able to provide data on more accessible formats (csv,json, yaml) to reduce the data mining overhead of you guys, i.e. scraping data together from killboards, api, etc. So if you're planning on making more it won't hurt to send me a line.
Max Therion
Jita Ikami Bank
#34 - 2013-01-31 01:57:50 UTC
Is CCP using Hortonworks? Hmmmm.... I know of this. www.hortonworks.com
iskflakes
#35 - 2013-01-31 03:41:10 UTC
So, when are you going to stop running the entire 3000 man fight on a single python thread?

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deepos
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#36 - 2013-01-31 09:07:48 UTC
Awesome graphs!

Thanks a lot quant Big smile

Poinen must burn was an amazing event !
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#37 - 2013-01-31 10:29:25 UTC
iskflakes wrote:
So, when are you going to stop running the entire 3000 man fight on a single python thread?



Well, how happy would you be about the async thread managing a titan getting a doomsday off on you, where as before it would have been alphaed before that shot got off? Blink


On a more serious note, looks like the next big thing will be a dispatcher that works on a different thread. Which will allow at least 2 cpus to do work.

Woo! CSM XI!

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Deerin
East Trading Co Ltd
#38 - 2013-01-31 12:49:55 UTC
Very nice numbers thank you.

Do you have number of logouts(disconnects, crashers connection losses) in asakai during that time?
Can you compare it to same data from uemon (if possible)

...and although I have no idea how hardware switching works, will it ever be possible to make the switch on-the fly. I mean is there light at the end of the tunnel or shall we just forget about its possibility?
Spurty
#39 - 2013-01-31 17:48:49 UTC
More graphs with 4 scales of darkish grey please!

Trolling aside (no, really 4 scales of darkish grey, MY EYES!), very much appreciate the breakdown / analysis!

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Illectroculus Defined
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#40 - 2013-01-31 18:15:26 UTC
CCP Quant wrote:

Illectroculus Defined wrote:


" I can promise you that we’ll have some wonderful time-lapse statistics of New Eden to show you on Fanfest. "

What a Brilliant Idea.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDR5TaP_VqY

I mean if you run out of spare time you can always show my movie.


Brilliant work Smile in some cases we might be able to provide data on more accessible formats (csv,json, yaml) to reduce the data mining overhead of you guys, i.e. scraping data together from killboards, api, etc. So if you're planning on making more it won't hurt to send me a line.


In that case, we really need to talk, because I have huge holes in my API history and would really like to update a few of these things to tell some stories.
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