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Roga Dracor
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#1 - 2011-10-24 15:58:39 UTC

Tlalocan, or Place of Tlaloc is the lowest realm of the heavens in the Amerind mythological sense. As a destination in the Afterlife, the levels of heaven were reserved mostly for those who had died violent deaths, and Tlalocan was reserved for those who had drowned or had otherwise been killed by manifestations of water, such as by flood, by diseases associated with water, or in storms by strikes of lightning.

Incidentally, there is a “Taloc” who is a high priest in an old silent, Cecil B. DeMille film, The Woman God Forgot. Couldn't find any info on the storyline, though, it involves Aztecs..

“Some modern communities continue to incorporate the concept of Tlalocan as a netherworld and shamanic destination in their modern religious practices.”

As Anoikis refers to “Programmed Cell Death” and wormhole space, are the “Talocan” objects named for “who made them”? Or, do they refer to “where they are”? Is Talocan, like Anoikis, the name of the place? If, so, the “Talocan” would be more properly named the Talocani, or people of Talocan, i.e. is saying Talocan Battlecruiser more akin to saying State or Imperial Battlecruiser than Caldari or Amarrian Battlecruiser?

Is there a unique racial subset to these people, or was it purely governmental? Is the naming convention applied to imply race, social makeup, or just cuz the devs thought it sounded cool? The last I find hardest to swallow.

Tlalocan consists of Four Cardinal directions, which we have seen in Eve Lore before. The compass points, North, South, East and West.

Someone posted this tidbit a long time ago, and I thought it was a Dev, "There are thus thirteen of each type of feature, rivers, highways and hills, located between the center and the edges of the underworld and one of each type of feature located in the center of the underworld."

That gives us a total of thirty nine “features” between the center and the edges of Talocan, or Anoikis, and three “features” in the center, or forty two “features”, in all, if based on wh class. I really have no clue what these “features” could be, though. Rivers and highways could imply travel, and hills are generally considered fortifications, often sporting forts, which harkens back to the chron, A Mind of Infinite Complexity, in particular the image for it.

I think this information holds the key to properly “navigating” wormhole space. Shamans use these “features” to navigate and guide their out of body experiences. There is likely something we haven't figured out, or simply haven't noticed, about the “features” of wormhole space. Is it the system types perhaps? How many variables are there? How many stars types are there? Static Gates? I just dunno..

But, I really think this is an important line of inquiry. Even when and if we could identify these “features”, we still have no clue as to the nature of the pattern to follow. But, I think we'll be one step closer.


It's no use going back to yesterday, because I was a different person then, and it's a poor sort of memory that only works backward.

Auwnie Morohe
#2 - 2011-10-25 14:17:35 UTC
I agree mostly.

Much to learn about the way of the Google you have.Big smile

With the exception of Joan the Woman, which contained a "contemporary" subplot, The Woman God Forgot was Cecil B. DeMille's first all-out historical spectacular. The story is set in Mexico during the reign of Emperor Montezuma (Raymond Hatton). Upon his arrival on Mexican soil, Spanish conquistador Cortez (Hobart Bosworth) sends Captain Alvarado (Wallace Reid) to the imperial palace with a demand for Montezuma's surrender. The emperor immediately puts Alvarado in chains, but he is rescued by Montezuma's daughter Tecza (Geraldine Farrar), who has fallen in love with the young Spaniard. This does not rest well with Tecza's parent-appointed fiance Guatemoco (Theodore Kosloff), who prepares to sacrifice Alvarado to the Aztec gods. To save her sweetheart, Tecza leads Cortez' army into battle against her own father. The price of her devotion to Alvarado is the total destruction of the Aztec empire, but rather than die herself (which would seem to be the logical denouement given the sequence of events), Tecza is permitted to live happily onward with her one true love. Though she was not exactly sylphlike, opera diva Geraldine Farrar wore her revealing costumes quite well, establishing a precedent for such later underdressed DeMille leading ladies as Gloria Swanson, Claudette Colbert and Hedy Lamarr. ~ Hal Erickson, Rovi

So I stumbled around Algintal recently and noticed the Contested Canyon of Rust. Some google fu later and found this which somewhat makes me think of the above.

Title: Fire Cloud
The Mysterious Cave. A Story of Indians and Pirates.

On a side note, it was written in a time when people were a little bit less enlightened when it comes to people of different races being equal and stuff like that.