Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Except that in a fleet you have dedicated tackle leaving the shield tanking ships with mids for tank and propulsion/eccm/sebo according to fleet type and lots of lows for damage mods.

It's always a trade-off, and at the most basic level before you consider mods the shield and armour are reasonably balanced considering slots and resists. The problem armour tankers have over the ASB is that it does too much for a single slot. It's like giving every ship that uses one an extra 2 mids. It's a shield booster+shield boost amp+cap booster all in one.

The AAR is only an armour repairer that can work a bit harder for a short time. It doesn't grant any 'free' slots in it's design. It doesn't make active tanking free from ship capacitor use. Armour tankers are still forced to use a mid slot for a cap booster, 2 if the dual or triple rep.

What the AAR does is to give you the performance of an X-type/A-type rep for an 8 cycle window at the cost of some nanite paste. I think the cargo space saved by using nanite paste instead of cap boosters is easily worth the additional isk cost and no complaints about that change being made. I do still feel the AAR is underwhelming. I feel the thing that would continue with the notion of making it different to the ASB but more effective for armour tanking would be the choice of running the rep at the low or boosted level at will. Some way to have it loaded with nanite, but opting to run it at the 0.75x level. Give us this and you have something that brings more flexibility to help offset the inherent problems associated with a module that continues to use ship's cap while it works.

Other than that, the only real help armour tankers are going to get is the easier fitting of using T1 over T2 for that first rep. Not to belittle that, it's a big help, but the module just needs that little something extra to make it really worthwhile over strapping an ASB to every ship even if they have an armour repair bonus. You just know the whole thing is still out of whack when that's the best option.

Typical example of space-poor. Go ask donations in Jita.
Also, people that load vanilla boosters instead of navy into ASB - deserve to die in a fire.


I repeat - die in a fire.

I would love for ASB and AAR to copy the fitting requirements of their "vanilla" counterparts...

has the Overheating Rig been turned into nanite paste or are we gonna see it soon on sisi?

What are its planned bonuses?

I would like to know because the way I initially understood, it improves both rep amount and cycle time bonuses provided by overheating.

Another problem is the reduced cycle time when overheating an armour repper as if cap consumption wasn't high enough to begin with.

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@CCP Fozzie

Not sure if this has been asked yet but will the skills Nanite Operation and Nanite Interfacing have any effect on the AAR and the way we use it?

Capacitor management is one of the most interesting features of internet spaceships. Unfortunately, it is already deteriorated in most sub-capitals, as you'd rather simply use a no-brainer like cap-booster rather than mess with recharge. I realize that it's not possible to rely on natural recharge in PVP fits, and even with cap-boosting we still have things to play with - so status quo is pretty much appropriate. But when I see people urge for further marginalizing of capacitor-related issues, I cant stand but say stfu&gtfo.

If anything, I'd rather see capacitor implemented in new POS system - it'd be really awesome. Fixed numbers are boring, capacitor instead would bring so much diversity... but so much pain in balancing it as well.

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