EVE Alliance Tournament Discussion

I think there is an issue with the tourney prices.

Currently the Etana is not being sold for no less than 70 billion isk

No one is going to fly that ship with that price

Issue is that the amount of bpc runs have kept the same but amount of players have increased over the years

With only collectors buying those ships there is no point putting development time in the ships

Why not give out 50 unike super secret medals so collectos can spend 70 billion isk to buy those?

Why not ten fold the amount of ships given out the the winning team.

Instead of only bpc's of 50, bpc's of 500 so more people can actuly buy them and use them?

Instead of 50 x 50 or 70 bill isk > 500 x 5 or 7 billion isk.

The winners get the same price and the playerbase get more action and shiney ships to kill in space to brag about

The perfect solution

Since the etana is such a awesome ship and only a few got sold, i sugest to apply this also on last year first place and second place winners.

What he said!

CCP Dolan #1

There's 400 tourney ships out there just from the past 4 years, which is really a quite significant number when you think about it. Its cool to see the ships used (usually because the team who fields them ends up losing :cough:) but if you decreased the rarity by a factor of 10 they would end up feeling a lot less special.

If you can't afford one at the current prices, then just grind up the isk yourself or get some wealthy friends to do it for you

To be fair the 30B range is more for the frigats the cruiser are all above 40b already. Research will show that price range. The number of handed out prices is limited for long time but the player base has increased and thereby also the demand. Simple market and economic 101 will prove that prices will only be climbing and the ships will only be gathering dust in hangars.

The issue is not the price of the ships. But the price - quality - risk to fly, combined. You can not say simply get more isk as above a certain treashhold its just suicidal to fly them as the loss penalty is just too high (-50b for 40k ehp cruiser hurts phisicaly in the wallet and pshycologicaly (whoops i just whelp'd 2/3 titan)).

Think about the Adresta, price 50-55b (last ones sold for that). You really have to be carefull fying it. You cant simply take it out in space and do your thing. It is just a matter of time before it acts as a blob or bait magnet.

The real question is at what point or price cost people stop flying them and start using them as dust collectors and is that acceptable developer opinion wise? Are they ment to be so? Should they be affordable to fly for the non uber rich collectors?

poor english but meh

I too would like to fly one but they wont let me! :(

Also they're being sold for 80bil not 70.

balancing is an additional job for any real ship, but reskinning, adding features, and determining slots and layout as well as bonuses are all something that should simply be spent on existing ships being redesigned (MOA) instead.

I can't tell them what to do though, and they will keep making them cause they are cool, but I always saw it as kind of pointless. I think it would be cooler to be like:

"You won alliance tournament, tell us one ship that hasn't been redesigned yet and we will redesign it for you guys, and give you alliance tournament special versions of it"

Then everyone benefits from the work and the alliance tourney people get unique ships as well...

(of course excluding capitals)

Not willing to buy them for the price their sold. Posts Rage thread on Alliance Torney Discussion Forum.

To specific resond on you post & i know who your main is: I rather buy 2 titans and go drop renter pet ratting carriers (i know 1 is enough but meh 2 is more shiney) than 2 etana's and quadrupleboxing it with 2 panthers ;). I have the isk but thats not the the real issue of this topic, isk or not, above a certain price mark its simply not worth flying it, see my above post's. Besides that, putting it on me is selfish. I could understand why you are resoning like this as most posts on here are complain posts. If you had read my post's above you could have well read that i didnt mention it like this. Funny is now that you are trolling me due not being able to read or understand very well. Your saying that im a troll while actualy you are ;)




Saying that im complaining depends on how you look at it personaly. It depends on your perspective, and in your case its colourd due you belonging to one of the corps that hold prices. That is fine, and ok, im not judging you on that. But i did not make this topic to compain. I made this to adress a certain issue on how i see it from a neutral perspective. How i think it could used better than just a station interious decorator. How i think it could add a zomg factor for future pilots that run into them adding an extra dimension to the EVE experiance. Example:

Imagin, going back to the early days of your first pvp steps. Brawling in low sec or were ever you were. Suddenly this dude jumps trough a gate in this never been seen ship. It locks you up and annihalates you. Imaging looking back at it, talking about with your future coprmate's, woúldn't that be awesome. Romanticizing that event which influences your perspective of eve and pvp in futurés to come. Wouln't that be awesome? This is not only for the nooby but everyone that runs into it. It adds extra situations which influences pilots for the rest of their eve careers, adding lots of positive emotions and associations too it. Example:

I remember when i got first nuked by Ephemeral in his officer fitted faction battleships back in the days (for those who remeber). Back when Faction BS where still not as good as now but he used thim like a pro. Or i remember when i ran into Garmon's Adrestia for the first time, chasing him in a ship and die'ing horrible. In good chats and lols times with corpmates these storie's get told and it adds and extra fiction to EVE to whoever listens. Its an extra experiance dimension. Romantiszinging spaze ships stories like when man remember's and likes to tell about his frist Titan kill. Or the story of the lone dictor pilot that manage to get the right bubble on that titan. Uniek stories that live on for long long time and give ppl their eve perspective and binds them to EVE more strongly than any good mining op gank can do.

Bluemelon can, and does...

I was under the impression nobody flew these cause of how rare and unreplaceable they were.

Am I wrong?