Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Don't you guys get it? The Deves didn't originally intend for Whs to be permanent homes. But so what? THEY ARE! And guess what? They are really cool in addition to adding so much to EVE. I think they deserve a little attention. They are suffering from overpopulation. easy solution? Make more! double the number of systems. Make new kinds of loot misc and WH effects while at the same time tweak some existing features. Do that and the Whs are good to go for another 5 - 10 years.

Lets compromise. Make it so that only small POS's can be deployed in Wormholes. And perhaps a couple depleting ice roids in the local asteroid belts. High secs roids I think should become suggested dynamic fields which move systems after depletion. Null should have the static ones. Cause null is supposed to be worth it.

And what'r you on about with the nebula? I was under the impression the new nebula weren't coming to tranquility. Haven't seen one iota of them on sis.

Final note: EVE is occasionally, a very broken game, and when it is, it's highly frustrating. There are many many more things that need fixing before we can look at improving the good stuff. Thus, I think this should probably take a side track next to null, which is severely broken, and low, which is a barren wasteland. Patience young padawan, you shall have your improvement...

...in around five years. Closest thing you might get is moar T3 ships. Definitely not T3 weapons.

From the report W Space grows each quarter with more active real pilots (non - bots) then most k space areas.

Guys... wormholes are the one area in Eve that's working far better than originally expected or intended for that matter. Don't go tryin got break things witl clever yet stupid ideas. There's a thriving sub-culture of Eve living in holes these days, and we love it. Small scale PvP, no mega-alliances lording over you, frontier living with a new connection or two (or more) to your system every day... it's wild and exciting. It's what null should have been, but nulls size did it in. There's no need for new capitals in wormholes. There's no need to break pos's, no need to "redistribute resources", no need to remove ice from high sec and debilitate wormholes.

Special note to CCP: Wormholes aren't broken. Don't try to fix them. Please.

Even these pending corporately owned customs offices are a kick in the balls of wormhole dwellers as originally designed, especially with the planned implementation. It's unnecessary.

Not really. I mean, most holes can't even have caps travlen through them anyhow. Holes connecting to a C2, for example, have a max jump mass of 300M if I recall... and those going to a C1 it's down to 20M I believe. So you'd be making a ship that you pretty much would have to have a full pos set up already to make in the wormholes, then it's trapped in the hole and can't go anywhere. If it requires changing wormholes or fabricating some silly "exceptions" to jump mass then you're trying to hard to add the unnecessary where it's not needed.

Actually, in a way, he does. I'm confident in saying that most of the larger groups living in wormholes generally feel the same in that wormhole mechanics are perfectly wonderful and that any changes would screw them up. Furthermore, a new capital ship would only cater to those too lazy to deal with the logistics required for moving a POS in and fueling it. Making changes to POS mechanics would be nice, there is plenty of room to improve there, but adding another cap ship as some kind of portable POS is totally unnecessary. Dont be lazy, actually put some effort into living in your wormhole and moving a POS in.

Wormholes are not supposed to be for people who want to sit around and screw off until there is some mining to be done, putting forth minimal effort for maximum reward. Wormholes are meant to reward teamwork and effort and give groups of players an environment to play in that is hostile to the current blob trend that is so common in 0.0.

The ONLY way carriers get into C2s is by being built there. They can also never leave the hole. Ever. Period.

So now you want an orca sized capital ship that can act as a pos? Yikes. Of course, it still couldn't get into a C1...

There is nothing lazy about a ship and/or structure that supports an individual that benefits the entire corporation. Pos mechanics lower Wormhole Corporation’s growth. 99.9% of corporations living in W space are made up of 3 guys with 4 alts each. Then you have the ones that Jump in from K space do what they do and leave before the exist closes. The reason being that more people in a wormhole corporation the more the problem of theft and headache. You have to give them roles that allow them access to areas that others use. A ship or structure that allows some privacy is needed in W space if it moves or not.

There are quiet a few large wormhole corps and alliances, and none of them seem to be dieing from lack of privacy and theft. You sir are poorly informed, do you even live in a wormhole?

Furthermore, many a C1 I've come through has had hordes of POS's inside them. If anything, POS's in lower class wormhole impede change and growth by making it extremely hard for anyone to contest lower class wormholes, thus the first person to set up generally stays there, stagnating, and preventing other groups from moving in who might want to.

In a C4 or below, a properly setup POS is virtually invulnerable... thank goodness most aren't properly set up. In addition, the issues of theft and privacy are easily solved by having personal PW'd POS's. A capital ship replacement for a POS solves a non-problem, and in fact makes living in a wormhole more vulnerable to attack, not less.

So actually, yes, please introduce a capital ship than can be built in lower class wormholes, cant spam EW batteries, and is much cheaper to run in the long term than a POS. I'd look forward to the loot.


Furthermore, those 99% of corporations that are 3 or 4 alts? Those live in the 99 billion C1s, C2s, and some C3s, and a lil bit in C4s. Wormholes of which the class and difficulty are actually geared toward small corporations, including those 3/4 alts. The reason you don't find large groups in lower class wormholes is because lower class wormholes dont support large corps. The reason you find corps with 3 members with 4 alts each is that they are all running research POS's or are content with living in lower class wormholes and aren't willing to engage in the effort, PvP, and risk involved with living in a larger group.

Wormhole mechanics and living in POS's does not limit growth, it is the laziness of individuals that limits growth. Wormholes are not supposed to be easy street, they are designed, and scaled for by class, different sized groups of players, and require and foster interaction based on the level of difficulty.


Wormholes are fine. If anything, it would be nice to have C7 - C9 wormholes so the larger groups can grow more still, increase the number of wormholes, and add yet more variety to the effects possible in a system.

Moon mining ! Please CCP :( you want to keep these moon as a picture or as a feature. I know you like nullsec but realy wh pilots pays logistics price already. Many of them will never go to nullsec no metter how hard youll work on it. +1