Missions & Complexes

If I charged into a restricted military base or operation wearing the wrong uniform or no uniform at all, without proper identification, without the proper pass codes, unregistered with their operations, not in their lines of communication, and not following their engagement doctrines, while armed with a weapon I may have already fired, I'd probably be shot. They may or may not give me an opportunity to surrender first.

Unless I am mistaken OP IS TALKING ABOUT SOLO IN LOW AND NUL SEC - specifically ganking sanctum runners etc. He is making a valid point that makes more sense in terms of artificial intelligence. If someone is slaughtering you and someone else comes and attacks them you're more likely to see them as a temporary ally.

I think the people rejecting the thread just don't understand what the OP is saying - must be. To the person that thinks hunting enemy BS in hostile territory is 'non-risk' all i can say is an emphatic 'lol'.

Get what? 1337 pvpers sense of entitlement? As in "I'm entitled to free rat dps against already riskless pve fit without a point."

I want my free km NOW!

He didn't specify the system security status (high, low, null) and for the record, I don't give a rat's butt which system security status he's talking about. The change he is proposing would affect all NPC's regardless of the system security status.

Besides that, what he's asking is to have NPC's exclude PvP fit's and just target PvE fits, much to his benefit..

As I said before, most definitely NO.

The NPC AI is working as intended, attacking the easiest target available. Maybe PvP pilots should start fitting up their ships like PvE players before invading NPC sites looking for an easy killmail.

If the OP is indeed flying round in null security systems, then he's probably surrounded by 'Blues' which definitely makes him much safer than the solo high sec mission runner.

Hehe, so far to AI and logic of this game.

No solo PVP - anyway since years.
Thanks to AI a PVEer now has more chances to win, because PVPer arent fitted for tanking rats, and due to EWAR of rats a carebear doesnt even need it equipped. The rats scram, web, damp on huuuuge distances by far better than any player toon, and the additional firepower is great :)

Sounds nice, but in fact, it is really screwed up. I prefered it the way it was before much more :(

So OP just wants PVE tears without any risk....too bad. Looks like you will have to take a chance on having a few tears of your own...deal with it OP.

i agree with goldiee . Following these forums i seen many times pvp's trolling on pve complains. So now its the best time to say adapt to it etc. Getting free kills (because if you do needed before to actually pvp you would be searching for pvp fitted ships as many people that do respect do ) with the help of npc is over. It is still viable to do , just with a bit more expensive ship . If you use recons they can still do their job , you just have to time it correct.

But i do admire that on the forumes best tears pvp tears so far especially for the risk free part of changes

If he was a PVPer he would not be crying.

To the OP I say;
If the only way you can successfully gank a carebear is when you have NPC rats helping you kill them then your fail at PVP in every possible way.

Killing carebears while they are running missions is not PVP it is Ganking, while Ganking is a form of PVP, and a form of game play in itself, is is not the same thing.

Comparing ganking carebears to real PVP is like comparing skiing/snow boarding at the local bunny hill to doing so in the Alps. Going down the bunny hill 5000 times will not prepare you for what you will face in the Alps, but if you are really bored it can pass the time...

CCP will not change mechanics to stop you from scanning down and ganking carebear mission runners, but they also will not change mechanics to make doing so even easier than it is now.

If you are so bad at PVP that you have to resort to ganking carebears to get kills then you have no business calling yourself a PVPer, you are just a Ganker.

If you fail at Ganking so bad, that you come on the forums and cry for CCP to make Ganking easier then I am sorry there is just no hope for you.

Did you find running missions and carebearing to hard? So you decided to try Ganking as your primary profession? If you had any level of PVP skill, Ganking carebears would not be a problem for you.

Waaaah. When they make NPCs stop shooting drones, then you'll have my vote for making NPCs stop shooting you.

The other day I went after bait, both of us got aggressed, no complaints on my part, added to the fun and uncertainty. Now I understand the OP's problem, lets analyse it he was going into CA's with a SB and pointing them and adding his DPS to the rats so he can take down the ratter, before it was easy, but now the frigate and cruiser rats switch to him and he pops, this has made his tactics no longer viable. Because most people warp out as soon as a neutral or red comes in system he cannot time it, he has to grab them there or then, now he gets popped. I understand his issue, however I don't agree with it being changed back to how it was, I like it now. He needs to sit down and think again what you do, but one thing is possible, people may become complacent due to the added layer of protection, but its no longer easy for camping SB's and that is a good thing...