Warfare & Tactics

It was actually 24 hours 30 minutes.

I wasn't talking of you specially ,but Gal Mil as a whole, but I've seen you in space and you are much of what I'm talking about. First off the bulk of your solo kills that you brag about, are T1 frigs vs you in a Destroyer. You have a handful of Faction frig kills and a few Destroyer vs Destroyer kills but the bulk of them are easy gank kills of T1 frigs.

Knowing your main targets inside plexes are going to be T1/Navy Faction frigs, you choose the easiest ship class to win, that being the Destroyer. What is special about that or challenging?

This is nothing special out side of showing that you fly solo sometimes and are active, but there isn't a lot of pushing the limits there. You are choosing ships that are easy to fly & tend to be some of the best ships of the class to fly. If you were trying to challenge yourself we would see more kills of other Destroyers, or kills of the T1 frigs while you were flying a T1 frig.

We don't see many kills of other Destroyers because you have no intention of fighting other Destroyers which is clear to see by your fits. You are fitting full gank no tank. That's not a ship that can fight other Destroyers and win in most cases. Meaning you are clearly going out with just the intention of ganking.

It's the same ole story of FW these days which revolves largely around ganking of the lessor side. Having 3 noobs run away from you is nothing special to brag about. It's very easy for a high skill point player in a Destroyer to kill a few noobs in frigs. It's just a matter of separation and DPS.

Hell, I was on my Gal Mil Awox alt a few nights ago and took on 4 Tristans killing 3 of them with 1 getting away. It wasn't really a hard fight, it was just a matter of separating them and killing them. This is why FW revolving around nothing but Frigs & Destroyers is bad for the game. If we had reasons and targets for BC's and even really "solo" cruisers you could find more challenging fights for higher skilled players.

This is the problem these days as there is very little challenge for higher skill point players because there is very little to do out side of ganking noobs. It's very easy to go gank noobs but it's very rare to find people that will bring a real fight when they don't have a clear advantage.

No, that's a win. Scoreboard.
Caldari: 1 Medal,
Gallente: 1 Medal + a high five.

We win the tiebreaker.

This is a complete lie. The Caldari could clear out the plexes in a system in less than an hour after downtime.

That said, it took quite a bit of effort on their part to capture all the systems, and PERVS dominated almost every plex fight they engaged in (which was one reason many EUTZ Gallente FW players weren't "interested"), and we did capitulate half way through.

Well, CCP doesn't like the 22nd. So the real score is

Hidden Snake 0, Gallente 1 (+ high five)

Edit: BTW, Notification system is a joke. The real key is timer rollbacks.

If you're talking about the no tank 10mn coercers, that ship is definitely capable of killing other destroyers 1v1.

Otherwise, your analysis is full of crap. Take my killboard (because well, it's similar to Nexx's and I know the story behind the kills).

You'll see some single frigate kills in dessies. But look at my last dessie loss - 5 frigs including 2 pirate frigs that had 90% webs, and I still managed to kill some stuff before I died.

Just because you see a single frigate kill in a destroyer does not mean that is all that was there in the fight. Will people kill a frigate in their destroyer if they happen across it? Sure. Is that the primary reason they hopped into a destroyer? Nope. I roam for fights and take whatever I have at least a slim chance of killing something before I get exploded.


EDIT: Ah, Nexx beat me to it, with less restraint :)

EDIT 2: I'll go one further. Please, take a look at my killboard and try to make the argument I primarily look for ganks. I know the history of my recent fights, and can fill you in. You're just so out of touch with reality I don't know what to say. I mean, you even made the point that you'll take a larger ship against smaller ships, and then talked about a dessie fighting a few frigs is just a gank.

WTF? You think a BC killing a few cruisers, requires more skill than a dessie killing a few frigates? BC's need more skill? BC's are significantly easier to fly than frigates and destroyers, they are far more tolerant of pilot error.

Argh.

Yet my kill-board has lots same class vs same class solo fights and even solo with me vs the next class or two up & me vs more than one target. Hell yea might even find a me vs a Vexor, Exequror & Merlin vs my Hookbill where I lost the Hookbill but managed to kill their Logi cruiser. Of course that's risk adverse noob ganking and not challenging.

Hell yea might even find a few of me in a Faction frig vs a Destroyer or multiple frigs, again not too challenging but that's about the best yea can expect to get these days..

You would have to look back pretty far though, to find anything really interesting like me taking on 6 Drakes while Dual boxing 2 Drakes or perhaps me dual Boxing 2 Drakes and taking on a Navy Apoc, Tengu, Drake and 2x T1 cruisers.. However those fights are few and very far between these days in the land of Frigs & Dessies..

In fact my risk adverse ass lost a Arbi 2 nights ago after fighting a Vexor on a plex gate and having half of Gal Milita show up and me being dumb decided to play with the frigs. The night before that I lost a Hookbill with a corp mate trying to take on a Rupture.. Totally risk adverse because it was just a failed gank attempt that we screwed up..

Only if he washes his hands before the high5. :)

No tears here buddy, I'm just telling it how it is. PVP has gone down hill by a large margin in FW. One would think that people being in FW and in low sec meant that it would likely cause "consensual combat". However I know the game has changed a lot and now it's about fitting stabs and farming LP's so I guess un-consensual ganks is all that is left?