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Hidden Snake
Inglorious-Basterds
#61 - 2013-01-30 13:11:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Hidden Snake
Fozzie grats for low five ... and ur medal ... it really was hard for CCP to achieve this to happen and Gals received medal for few hours zone control (compared to previous Caldari victory). BTW is Pavanaka fixed or is it going to be another present?

And are Caldari going to have another medal once we will roll over the systems?

Funny is my gallente alt received the medal too.... sigh

BTW Fozzie can you receive official title for being Gallente representative in CCP - you know, it would make things much easier, dont worry Caldari would accept the challenge (we did in the past several times).

And funny words about that all previous deveopers are gone :))) (no tinfoil hat now) cest la vie
ALUCARD 1208
Jerkasaurus Wrecks Inc.
Sedition.
#62 - 2013-01-30 13:50:47 UTC  |  Edited by: ALUCARD 1208
Hidden Snake wrote:
Fozzie grats for low five ... and ur medal ... it really was hard for CCP to achieve this to happen and Gals received medal for few hours zone control (compared to previous Caldari victory). BTW is Pavanaka fixed or is it going to be another present?

And are Caldari going to have another medal once we will roll over the systems?

Funny is my gallente alt received the medal too.... sigh

BTW Fozzie can you receive official title for being Gallente representative in CCP - you know, it would make things much easier, dont worry Caldari would accept the challenge (we did in the past several times).

And funny words about that all previous deveopers are gone :))) (no tinfoil hat now) cest la vie


thats right why would our ccp gallente overlords want caldaris working in there office maybe theyd cotton on to the leg ups ccp keep giving us. We had fozzie spike there drinks then make an official ccp company drug test on all employees which they failed and got kicked out....... (tinfoil hat enough for ya?)

caldari victory? ohhhh right the one where only the caldaris were plexing because sov meant nothing??????

Nope ull not get a medal he says this cant be garunteed to happen again

♥ fozzie *high fives*

BEBOPS ODE TO PERUNGA
Hidden Snake
Inglorious-Basterds
#63 - 2013-01-30 14:23:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Hidden Snake
ALUCARD 1208 wrote:
Hidden Snake wrote:
Fozzie grats for low five ... and ur medal ... it really was hard for CCP to achieve this to happen and Gals received medal for few hours zone control (compared to previous Caldari victory). BTW is Pavanaka fixed or is it going to be another present?

And are Caldari going to have another medal once we will roll over the systems?

Funny is my gallente alt received the medal too.... sigh

BTW Fozzie can you receive official title for being Gallente representative in CCP - you know, it would make things much easier, dont worry Caldari would accept the challenge (we did in the past several times).

And funny words about that all previous deveopers are gone :))) (no tinfoil hat now) cest la vie


thats right why would our ccp gallente overlords want caldaris working in there office maybe theyd cotton on to the leg ups ccp keep giving us. We had fozzie spike there drinks then make an official ccp company drug test on all employees which they failed and got kicked out....... (tinfoil hat enough for ya?)

caldari victory? ohhhh right the one where only the caldaris were plexing because sov meant nothing??????

Nope ull not get a medal he says this cant be garunteed to happen again

♥ fozzie *high fives*


You probably was not there, but there were serious fights over systems and plexes ... but Gallente broke in the middle of campaign. I was part of 22nd BRDU in that days and whole operation was much more serious then u think and did not include any interventions from CCP.
Princess Nexxala
Zero Syndicate
#64 - 2013-01-30 15:11:18 UTC
Indeed

The rest of you **** squids really need to take a queue from these guys. Especially you lot that only PvP on the forums...

HazeInADaze wrote:


I think all of HE would happily lose Raka every week if you guys brought that level of intensity. We just want the fights. Glory and honor are for others.


nom nom
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#65 - 2013-01-30 15:32:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Cearain
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Cearain wrote:
X Gallentius wrote:
Cearain wrote:


That is my point. You wouldn't need to chase them.

The smart militia will then spread out (7 pvp active pilots minimum is all it would take to be within about 3 jumps of any system) and someone who is close to that new system would kick them out. No chasing.

They could keep going but eventually they would realize that if they wanted to capture a plex they would need to fight for it.

You can do that now. Find 6 friends and have at it.


They would have to constantly be scouting all the 12 or so systems in their zone to see if anyone is hide and plexing them. Thus not running any plexes themselves.

The strategy doesn't work without notifications.


If they were constantly scouting, they would constantly find farmers, i assure you. If chasing these farmers out of plexes is what you and you alleged 6 friends want, then have a go.



Its amazing how much you fight against a nerf to your plexing alts.

No one wants to scout for farmer constantly. That is the point of the notification system.



Crosi Wesdo wrote:

Finding them is easy, the notification idea is a joke.

Every system in every direction from my home system has someone running a plex most hours of the day. Why would i need a useless notification to tell me what i already know? Idiocy.



Now you don't know when they started the plex. A notification system combined with a well done rollback system would mean there would be no more farming of plexes.

Without the notifications you are just wasting your own time randomly chasing people. With notifications you could time when you chase them out for maximum damage to the farmers. Jump in when they only have 3 minutes left on a 15 minute timer. If the count back was at 2 or 3xs speed until it reached zero (and/or immediately took 2 minutes off their clock capped at zero) they would no longer be able to farm.

These are the ideas that ccp and players should be considering and fine tuning, instead of just throwing up their hands and saying "well its all always just going to be farmville." Its obstructionists like you and XG who like running your hide and seek plexing alts that are constantly arguing against improvements to the game. (i.e.,arguing against nerfing farming alts) You got your medal based on this silly pve game. Why not think of ways to improve it?

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#66 - 2013-01-30 15:44:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
Cearain wrote:


Its amazing how much you fight against a nerf to your plexing alts.


I havent earned a single LP outside pvp since the cashout days. Nor will i have to for quite some time.

Cearain wrote:

Now you don't know when they started the plex. A notification system combined with a well done rollback system would mean there would be no more farming of plexes.

Without the notifications you are just wasting your own time randomly chasing people. With notifications you could time when you chase them out for maximum damage to the farmers. Jump in when they only have 3 minutes left on a 15 minute timer. If the count back was at 2 or 3xs speed until it reached zero (and/or immediately took 2 minutes off their clock capped at zero) they would no longer be able to farm.


Its just a terrible idea. Its never going to happen. If it did happen 99% of people would ignore the hundreds of notifications. It would result in more people stealing LP than kicking farmers out of plexes.

In fact me and fuzzybutt spend a couple of days fighting with our mains to defend and steal LP off each others plexing alts. A notification system would take the effort out of scouting his plexes, giving him time to rally a defence (the time left on timer), all away. You just sound lazy. Im sure even with a notification system you would just find another excuse to not go and chase farmers around.

As i said, people have their own priorities. If you want to chase farmers, thats cool. I assure you that a notification system is not required, while a timer rollback would be very nice.

Also, fixing acceleration gates to allow access to plex while cloaked would also be awesome;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4o2ottYztI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13E4UTefjhg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9RfOMzy_RE

Though not sure how well that would work with the bomber given new plexes.
Mutnin
SQUIDS.
#67 - 2013-01-30 15:59:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Mutnin
Princess Nexxala wrote:
Indeed

The rest of you **** squids really need to take a queue from these guys. Especially you lot that only PvP on the forums...

HazeInADaze wrote:


I think all of HE would happily lose Raka every week if you guys brought that level of intensity. We just want the fights. Glory and honor are for others.





You guys have never "just wanted the fights" You guys usually only want the fights if it's a clear win. Usually when you aren't sure if you can win or not you always went home or pretended to be afk.

I'm so tired of hearing people claim they want "good fights" because 99.999% of the time all they really want is easy ganks.
Dread Operative
Lowlife.
Snuffed Out
#68 - 2013-01-30 17:04:21 UTC
Hidden Snake wrote:

You probably was not there, but there were serious fights over systems and plexes ... but Gallente broke in the middle of campaign. I was part of 22nd BRDU in that days and whole operation was much more serious then u think and did not include any interventions from CCP.


When was that campaign? 2009?
ALUCARD 1208
Jerkasaurus Wrecks Inc.
Sedition.
#69 - 2013-01-30 17:27:05 UTC  |  Edited by: ALUCARD 1208
Hidden Snake wrote:
ALUCARD 1208 wrote:
Hidden Snake wrote:
Fozzie grats for low five ... and ur medal ... it really was hard for CCP to achieve this to happen and Gals received medal for few hours zone control (compared to previous Caldari victory). BTW is Pavanaka fixed or is it going to be another present?

And are Caldari going to have another medal once we will roll over the systems?

Funny is my gallente alt received the medal too.... sigh

BTW Fozzie can you receive official title for being Gallente representative in CCP - you know, it would make things much easier, dont worry Caldari would accept the challenge (we did in the past several times).

And funny words about that all previous deveopers are gone :))) (no tinfoil hat now) cest la vie


thats right why would our ccp gallente overlords want caldaris working in there office maybe theyd cotton on to the leg ups ccp keep giving us. We had fozzie spike there drinks then make an official ccp company drug test on all employees which they failed and got kicked out....... (tinfoil hat enough for ya?)

caldari victory? ohhhh right the one where only the caldaris were plexing because sov meant nothing??????

Nope ull not get a medal he says this cant be garunteed to happen again

♥ fozzie *high fives*


You probably was not there, but there were serious fights over systems and plexes ... but Gallente broke in the middle of campaign. I was part of 22nd BRDU in that days and whole operation was much more serious then u think and did not include any interventions from CCP.



Be serious it meant nothing, hardly any gallentes were fighting for occupatiion there was no station lockouts, so caldaris took every system ... so what? did it stop gallente from going about there buisness forcing them to run to high sec or outa fw space? NO..

so ur achievement caused no upset to your enemy and thats a victory? sounds like a hollow achievement to me

were as we forced half ur alliances to quit (and non of them cared till they knew evoke was here so theve come back in just for some more iiskies) and the other half to run to far off places to live..

TALK ABOUT JOB SATISFACTION Big smileBig smileBig smileBig smileBig smileBig smileBig smileBig smileBig smile

BEBOPS ODE TO PERUNGA
HazeInADaze
Safari Hunt Club
#70 - 2013-01-30 17:31:17 UTC
Mutnin wrote:
Princess Nexxala wrote:
Indeed

The rest of you **** squids really need to take a queue from these guys. Especially you lot that only PvP on the forums...




You guys have never "just wanted the fights" You guys usually only want the fights if it's a clear win. Usually when you aren't sure if you can win or not you always went home or pretended to be afk.

I'm so tired of hearing people claim they want "good fights" because 99.999% of the time all they really want is easy ganks.



I sick of people complaining about the lack of fair fights. This is EvE, fair has nothing to do with this game. HE often picks unfair fights with the odds either for or against us. The trick is to not be a sore loser and get comfortable being killed.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#71 - 2013-01-30 17:50:48 UTC
Mutnin wrote:
You guys have never "just wanted the fights" You guys usually only want the fights if it's a clear win. Usually when you aren't sure if you can win or not you always went home or pretended to be afk.

I'm so tired of hearing people claim they want "good fights" because 99.999% of the time all they really want is easy ganks.


Today, we were in north Black Rise. Ev0ke wouldn't engage us until they outnumbered us 3 to 2 in destroyers and 4 to 1 in cruisers. Then they still wouldn't engage us, ran, and accidentally left one of their Mallers to die.

We got a better fight off the GoonSwarm Vagabond that warped to a plex gate solo.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Princess Nexxala
Zero Syndicate
#72 - 2013-01-30 18:42:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Princess Nexxala
Meh, say what you want. Expect nothing less then this and accusations of boosts as your terrible noobs run away from me when they outnumber me 3 to 1. Maybe I should make a post about that every time it happens? Nah that's lame.

Only taking fights I know I will win? Really? If that were the case I would never lose ship...and I lose quite a few. If I have the slightest chance of winning (say 10%) I take the ******* fight. You accuse all you want but the fact you have 11 kills in the last 3 months and I have 1100 (350 solo) really makes everything you say completely irrelevant. Enjoy that.

Mutnin wrote:


You guys have never "just wanted the fights" You guys usually only want the fights if it's a clear win. Usually when you aren't sure if you can win or not you always went home or pretended to be afk.

I'm so tired of hearing people claim they want "good fights" because 99.999% of the time all they really want is easy ganks.

nom nom
Dread Operative
Lowlife.
Snuffed Out
#73 - 2013-01-30 19:02:23 UTC
Dread Operative wrote:
Hidden Snake wrote:

You probably was not there, but there were serious fights over systems and plexes ... but Gallente broke in the middle of campaign. I was part of 22nd BRDU in that days and whole operation was much more serious then u think and did not include any interventions from CCP.


When was that campaign? 2009?


This wasn't actually a dig, I really wanted to know when they started to make the push to when they controlled all systems.
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#74 - 2013-01-30 19:13:40 UTC
i hope fozzie gets "******* up sandbox medal"
Mutnin
SQUIDS.
#75 - 2013-01-30 19:24:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Mutnin
HazeInADaze wrote:
Mutnin wrote:
Princess Nexxala wrote:
Indeed

The rest of you **** squids really need to take a queue from these guys. Especially you lot that only PvP on the forums...




You guys have never "just wanted the fights" You guys usually only want the fights if it's a clear win. Usually when you aren't sure if you can win or not you always went home or pretended to be afk.

I'm so tired of hearing people claim they want "good fights" because 99.999% of the time all they really want is easy ganks.



I sick of people complaining about the lack of fair fights. This is EvE, fair has nothing to do with this game. HE often picks unfair fights with the odds either for or against us. The trick is to not be a sore loser and get comfortable being killed.


Where did I say anything about "fair".. I said good fights & ganks.. There is never a fair fight because there is always someting not the same at play. It's matter of if it's a good and challenging fights vs just a easy gank that is a clear win.

A good fight might be a single BC vs 2 or 3 T1 cruisers.. or a Navy Faction frig vs 2 T1 frigs. Something that is challenging and not a clear gank.

A easy gank is 2 or 3 BC's vs a T1 cruiser or 2 Navy Faction frigs vs a single T1 frig.. Understand the difference?
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#76 - 2013-01-30 19:34:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Cearain
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Cearain wrote:


Its amazing how much you fight against a nerf to your plexing alts.


I havent earned a single LP outside pvp since the cashout days. Nor will i have to for quite some time..



Ok so you havn't done any plexing since the cashouts. Therefore you haven't actually played the sov game since the cashouts. I don't blame you. Thats sort of the point, its a horrible system.



Crosi Wesdo wrote:

Cearain wrote:

Now you don't know when they started the plex. A notification system combined with a well done rollback system would mean there would be no more farming of plexes.

Without the notifications you are just wasting your own time randomly chasing people. With notifications you could time when you chase them out for maximum damage to the farmers. Jump in when they only have 3 minutes left on a 15 minute timer. If the count back was at 2 or 3xs speed until it reached zero (and/or immediately took 2 minutes off their clock capped at zero) they would no longer be able to farm.


Its just a terrible idea. Its never going to happen. If it did happen 99% of people would ignore the hundreds of notifications. It would result in more people stealing LP than kicking farmers out of plexes.

In fact me and fuzzybutt spend a couple of days fighting with our mains to defend and steal LP off each others plexing alts. A notification system would take the effort out of scouting his plexes, giving him time to rally a defence (the time left on timer), all away. You just sound lazy. Im sure even with a notification system you would just find another excuse to not go and chase farmers around.

As i said, people have their own priorities. If you want to chase farmers, thats cool. I assure you that a notification system is not required, while a timer rollback would be very nice.



I don't want to chase farmers around. A notification system combined with a good rollback timer would mean no one would ever have to chase farmers around again. That is my point.

Your arguments are that:

1) it woudl be too much information and your head would explode. Already addressed by a filter.

2) Everyone already knows where everyone is plexing (although this is obviously not true)

and

3) will lead to more lp stealing. If your second argument were true then this argument would fail. But since its not true then perhaps it would. But the lp stealing - assuming its a problem - can be easilly addressed by ccp giving lp just like they used to give standing in the plexes. the standing woudl go to everyone on grid who was in the fleet that was there the longest continuous time before the plex closed. Not in the fleet no lp.

Crosi Wesdo wrote:


Also, fixing acceleration gates to allow access to plex while cloaked would also be awesome;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4o2ottYztI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13E4UTefjhg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9RfOMzy_RE

Though not sure how well that would work with the bomber given new plexes.



Looks like your the one who likes to chase farmers. I am not a big fan.

Cloaking in plexes is more helpful to farmers than it is too anyone else right now. Especially if there is some roll back provision. Farmers will be able to just cloak and prevent the timer rollback. So if anything cloaking in plexes may need to go.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
Colt Blackhawk
Doomheim
#77 - 2013-01-30 19:41:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Colt Blackhawk
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Congratulations on being the second faction to complete a sweep of a warzone ladies and gentlemen of the the Gallente.

I honestly did not think we were going to be able to do a medal when I was investigating our options, since all the staff involved with the Caldari one left the company some time ago. However thanks to CCP Greyscale's research, CCP Eterne's writing and CCP Creber Cattus' programming we were able to get it completed.

I do want to make clear that we cannot guarantee medals for any future warzone captures for any militia. We'll do what we can time and workload permitting, but we cannot make promises about future cases at this time.


Translation:
We don´t like amarr and caldari so they won´t get one if they capture all systems.
But minmatar and gallente will get one :P

*Sarcasm off*

Will there be any fix for fw in the near future? Reactivated my own alt now for plexing to test it. Stupid amounts of isk possible. Really stupid.
How to explain a miner or industrial why he should do what he does when you can earn much more isk only orbiting ?!"&%=! button while doing office work or reading a book????

Edit: If you see a stabbed afk executioner somewhere in a plex plz don´t shoot it :P
Yeah.... f.... the hell out of a completely f.... and broken system.

Edit2: Ret if you read this don´t f... me. I am gonna buy some augorors for it :P

[09:04:53] Ashira Twilight > Plant the f****** amarr flag and s*** on their smoking wrecks.
chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Of Essence
#78 - 2013-01-30 19:47:35 UTC
Colt Blackhawk wrote:


Translation:
We don´t like amarr and caldari so they won´t get one if they capture all systems.
But minmatar and gallente will get one :P



Except caldari already got a medal?
Colt Blackhawk
Doomheim
#79 - 2013-01-30 19:49:09 UTC
Quote:
Except caldari already got a medal?


Yeah but that was before. Without CCP help for gals and minnies.

[09:04:53] Ashira Twilight > Plant the f****** amarr flag and s*** on their smoking wrecks.
greg01
T.R.I.A.D
Ushra'Khan
#80 - 2013-01-30 19:56:23 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Congratulations on being the second faction to complete a sweep of a warzone ladies and gentlemen of the the Gallente.

I honestly did not think we were going to be able to do a medal when I was investigating our options, since all the staff involved with the Caldari one left the company some time ago. However thanks to CCP Greyscale's research, CCP Eterne's writing and CCP Creber Cattus' programming we were able to get it completed.

I do want to make clear that we cannot guarantee medals for any future warzone captures for any militia. We'll do what we can time and workload permitting, but we cannot make promises about future cases at this time.


So, the gallente got their medal? I know! I saw it. My alt has it sitting proudly on the mantlepiece. However, I find the whole high fives, tea and medals, congratulations all around laughable. You held 100% control for LESS THAN 24HRS. That's not a win, that's a joke.

Roll on faction warfare comedy where the devs deny any wrongdoing.................