Player Features and Ideas Discussion

sup?

gate camps with anti cloaks mods and PvP'ers ready to cyno.

loltastically brilliant perhaps

i hear concord have camps at every gate, great anti-cloaking pulses and a maximum response time of 20 seconds. no wonder so many ppl chose hi-sec

I think if you are cloaked, especially if you entered system by any means other than a gate, that the cloaked pilot should not appearin local chat. The problem with afk cloaking is local chat channel showing all members in a system.

We dont need new cloaking mechanics. We need new local chat mechanics. If I enter a system via a wormhole, I should not be appearing in local, especially if I am in one of the various covert ships. The point of being cover is to remain undetected. Local channel makes that task FUBAR. "New guy in local, we cant find him on dscan or with probes, he must be cloaked" . Pilots should have to work for their intel, not look at a chat chennel and see who all is present in the system.

I love wormhole space because I have no rules, and no one appears in local unless they present themselves in the channel. I can be sneaky, and my avoidance of detection is measured by my ability to remain undetected. Pilots in j-space rely on dscan, and scouts to aquire their intel and spot the enemy.

Local channel is my biggest reason for avoiding lowsec and nullsec. It ruins the fun of being covert when everyone knows I am thete because of the local channel. If CCP delays local like it is in wormhole space, then I will find myself venturing out there far more often.

Perhaps you should come to null sec (im currently staged in Insmother near the I-1 system) so you can show me how you can defend yourself ...oh mighty warrior.

If the majority of lowsec/nullsec wants to keep their local channel mechanic as is, thats fine with me, but cloaks should not be nerfed for the rest of us who dont care to go to low/null. Cloaks are a valuable tool for us in wormhole space. A cloak with a cool down time and limited use is not something I want in wormhole space. Which is why i was saying above that local chat channel is the problem, not the cloaks themselves.

If a change is to happen to the cloaks, then CCP, I beg you to leave their current mechanics in place when they are used in wormhole space. Dont ruin cloaks for everyone to fix an "afk cloaking" problem in space where everyone shows up in local chat.

-Do i gate camp? yes
-Do others gate camp? yes

-If there was an anti cloaking mod would i use them in gate camps? yes
-If there was an anti cloaking mod would other ppl use them in gate camps? if they didnt then ppl would continue to slip by them with cloaks. their choice really.

-Would i do this to defend ratting buddies? i have done this in WH's and if there was a need to defend ppl in null i'd do it there too. but with the current system they dnt need babysitters, they just need local.
-Would other ppl do this to defend ratting buddies? its their choice, but if they don't they are leaving their primary money making system exposed.

-Do i sometimes log on and have my PvP toon ready to fleet in a moments notice, even when we arent expecting a fight? yes
-Are other ppl sometimes logged on not really doing much and/or are ready to drop what they are doing to fleet up in a moments notice? yes

After this much time has passed, it can be taken for granted that this was not a stand alone change.

It would not be surprising if the devs wanted to keep the game balanced, and simply saw no clear and obvious solution due to the fact that AFK cloaking is distinctly tied to the way local chat is used.

It never happened then, but thanks anyway.

I must have missed it.

Yep, that's the one being used for AFK psychological warfare.