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Acac Sunflyier
The Ascended Academy
#41 - 2013-01-29 21:33:51 UTC
Trendon Evenstar wrote:
SuicidalPancake wrote:
Proletariat Tingtango wrote:
If there are any of those that we didn't have yet, I just want to extend to you an unofficial thanks on behalf of GSF and the CFC.

I realise that the CFC holds most of these moons. But hey, at least the rest of EVE knows where they are now.


Fun facts: Dotlan is hilariously inaccurate and when we conquer a new region we pay volunteers to go out and scan every single constellation. So the only ones who truly know exactly what is in every single constellation are those who do the grunt-work and go out and scan them i.e. us (aside from already documented moons)

that being said: come at us bros


It's pretty accurate on tech and the 64s
turmajin
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2013-01-29 21:51:00 UTC  |  Edited by: turmajin
You really dont need that big a force just to take out moon harvesters,and i suspect it would irate the hell out of the owners to constantly see their moon tech income disrupted.Theres alot of non HBC or unaligned corps who just might enjoy griefing a well known griefing corp/ alliance lol.So good on the OP for thinking this information might be usefull,and maybe giving those corp an enjoyable something to do if they wish / want.Maybe RvB and EVE UNI,will want to do ops on PvP raiding /POS grinding or FW just to pull the 0.0 boys chains lol Have to admit seeing Goons whine about it on the forums would be sweet lol
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#43 - 2013-01-29 22:10:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Nicolo da'Vicenza
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:
Goon member > Where are all the moons?
Dev cfc member > 2 sec
Dev cfc member > copy paste, here you go
Goon member > thx

Back in the days BOB was where Goon member is now, things has changed alot Roll

Ban all goons, clearly they're cheating, this guy has proof.

it was posted by an ex -a- guy so you know it's legit
-A-IA agents can't be beat
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#44 - 2013-01-29 22:11:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Nicolo da'Vicenza
turmajin wrote:
You really dont need that big a force just to take out moon harvesters,and i suspect it would irate the hell out of the owners to constantly see their moon tech income disrupted.Theres alot of non HBC or unaligned corps who just might enjoy griefing a well known griefing corp/ alliance lol.So good on the OP for thinking this information might be usefull,and maybe giving those corp an enjoyable something to do if they wish / want.Maybe RvB and EVE UNI,will want to do ops on PvP raiding /POS grinding or FW just to pull the 0.0 boys chains lol Have to admit seeing Goons whine about it on the forums would be sweet lol

perhaps elo knight can lead them
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#45 - 2013-01-29 22:13:26 UTC
turmajin wrote:
You really dont need that big a force just to take out moon harvesters,and i suspect it would irate the hell out of the owners to constantly see their moon tech income disrupted.Theres alot of non HBC or unaligned corps who just might enjoy griefing a well known griefing corp/ alliance lol.So good on the OP for thinking this information might be usefull,and maybe giving those corp an enjoyable something to do if they wish / want.Maybe RvB and EVE UNI,will want to do ops on PvP raiding /POS grinding or FW just to pull the 0.0 boys chains lol Have to admit seeing Goons whine about it on the forums would be sweet lol

Moon harvesters go inside the pos shields. Have fun grinding down all of these small POS to RF and then get chased away by a 40 person BC gang when you come back to kill it.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

SuicidalPancake
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#46 - 2013-01-29 23:19:21 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Moon harvesters go inside the pos shields. Have fun grinding down all of these small POS to RF and then get chased away by a 40 person BC gang when you come back to kill it.

Would you believe that I have seen moon harvesters anchored outside the POS shields. Along with shield hardeners outside the shields too!

_ _

turmajin
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2013-01-29 23:19:29 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
turmajin wrote:
You really dont need that big a force just to take out moon harvesters,and i suspect it would irate the hell out of the owners to constantly see their moon tech income disrupted.Theres alot of non HBC or unaligned corps who just might enjoy griefing a well known griefing corp/ alliance lol.So good on the OP for thinking this information might be usefull,and maybe giving those corp an enjoyable something to do if they wish / want.Maybe RvB and EVE UNI,will want to do ops on PvP raiding /POS grinding or FW just to pull the 0.0 boys chains lol Have to admit seeing Goons whine about it on the forums would be sweet lol

Moon harvesters go inside the pos shields. Have fun grinding down all of these small POS to RF and then get chased away by a 40 person BC gang when you come back to kill it.


But you wouldnt come back to kill it ,would you.If your smart youll hit a whole new set,,then another and so on and repeat on some.Eventually the owning alliance would have its forces scattered all over the place,and ,and you cant be strong everywhere.Then you can pounce and stand a good chance of success,and maybe more fights like the one last weekend will develop
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#48 - 2013-01-29 23:21:45 UTC
turmajin wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
turmajin wrote:
You really dont need that big a force just to take out moon harvesters,and i suspect it would irate the hell out of the owners to constantly see their moon tech income disrupted.Theres alot of non HBC or unaligned corps who just might enjoy griefing a well known griefing corp/ alliance lol.So good on the OP for thinking this information might be usefull,and maybe giving those corp an enjoyable something to do if they wish / want.Maybe RvB and EVE UNI,will want to do ops on PvP raiding /POS grinding or FW just to pull the 0.0 boys chains lol Have to admit seeing Goons whine about it on the forums would be sweet lol

Moon harvesters go inside the pos shields. Have fun grinding down all of these small POS to RF and then get chased away by a 40 person BC gang when you come back to kill it.


But you wouldnt come back to kill it ,would you.If your smart youll hit a whole new set,,then another and so on and repeat on some.Eventually the owning alliance would have its forces scattered all over the place,and ,and you cant be strong everywhere.Then you can pounce and stand a good chance of success,and maybe more fights like the one last weekend will develop

Yeah, cause we definitely need our entire force to know where yours is headed.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#49 - 2013-01-29 23:26:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Varius Xeral
More nullsec strategy and tactics from NPC corp specialists.

Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal

Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#50 - 2013-01-29 23:27:11 UTC
I will never understand what drives people to opine on topics they know absolutely nothing about.

Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal

No More Heroes
Boomer Humor
Snuffed Out
#51 - 2013-01-29 23:33:06 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
perhaps elo knight can lead them


The king in the north is intimately familiar with the results of shooting CFC tech moons.


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Mire Stoude
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#52 - 2013-01-29 23:34:26 UTC
Thank you OP. This is all the information my 9 man corp needs to start taking moons from these mega alliances.
Mr. Orange
Band of Freelancers
#53 - 2013-01-30 00:36:57 UTC
Varius Xeral wrote:
I will never understand what drives people to opine on topics they know absolutely nothing about.



I see this all the time at summer Cruise Nights, a bunch of us show up in our classic muscle cars, then the local high school kids drive up in their mom's rice burners; start talking shop like they know wtf is up. We just nod and smile to each other...

Lol

No matter what circles you run in, there will always be people like that unfortunately.


SuicidalPancake
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#54 - 2013-01-30 01:38:53 UTC
Mire Stoude wrote:
Thank you OP. This is all the information my 9 man corp needs to start taking moons from these mega alliances.

Not sure if trying to be serious... or sarcastic... *Fry face*

_ _

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#55 - 2013-01-30 03:43:12 UTC
No More Heroes wrote:
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
perhaps elo knight can lead them

The king in the north is intimately familiar with the results of shooting CFC tech moons.

Elo knight? Wasn't he the one we were camping in that station? Boat with the carrier hellcamp?

Well, this time, at least you'll either be camped by carriers or more likely, camped by boat in subcaps.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#56 - 2013-01-30 03:44:44 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
turmajin wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
turmajin wrote:
You really dont need that big a force just to take out moon harvesters,and i suspect it would irate the hell out of the owners to constantly see their moon tech income disrupted.Theres alot of non HBC or unaligned corps who just might enjoy griefing a well known griefing corp/ alliance lol.So good on the OP for thinking this information might be usefull,and maybe giving those corp an enjoyable something to do if they wish / want.Maybe RvB and EVE UNI,will want to do ops on PvP raiding /POS grinding or FW just to pull the 0.0 boys chains lol Have to admit seeing Goons whine about it on the forums would be sweet lol

Moon harvesters go inside the pos shields. Have fun grinding down all of these small POS to RF and then get chased away by a 40 person BC gang when you come back to kill it.


But you wouldnt come back to kill it ,would you.If your smart youll hit a whole new set,,then another and so on and repeat on some.Eventually the owning alliance would have its forces scattered all over the place,and ,and you cant be strong everywhere.Then you can pounce and stand a good chance of success,and maybe more fights like the one last weekend will develop

Yeah, cause we definitely need our entire force to know where yours is headed.

I think you'll find that we're quite willing to "rep pos" like we are to "shoot pos".

As an added bonus, if you are a carrier repping pos, you will no longer have Boat leading you (a great loss, I know).

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#57 - 2013-01-30 06:35:40 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Meh, just get a dozen people with stealth frigates to sneak in, position themselves at a dozen different POSs and all take a single pot-shot at each of them at the same time just to trigger the alert message on all of them...

Then they all tip-toe away laughing as the Titan FC's head explodes trying to cyno his blob to twelve different places at the same time...

Then they arrive and find no one is home at any of them...

Blob reforms, Titan FC busy trying to glue hair back to scalp...

Stealthies come back the next day, do it again...



Fun fact, nobody cares about the damage messages until you get the "Reinforced: Will Exit at [Time]" message.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#58 - 2013-01-30 06:43:29 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
No More Heroes wrote:
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
perhaps elo knight can lead them

The king in the north is intimately familiar with the results of shooting CFC tech moons.

Elo knight? Wasn't he the one we were camping in that station? Boat with the carrier hellcamp?

Well, this time, at least you'll either be camped by carriers or more likely, camped by boat in subcaps.

IT WAS A LITTLE INSIDE JOKE FOR US MEMBERS OF THE 'SOV CLUB'.
SuicidalPancake
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#59 - 2013-01-30 07:10:17 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
No More Heroes wrote:
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
perhaps elo knight can lead them

The king in the north is intimately familiar with the results of shooting CFC tech moons.

Elo knight? Wasn't he the one we were camping in that station? Boat with the carrier hellcamp?

Well, this time, at least you'll either be camped by carriers or more likely, camped by boat in subcaps.

IT WAS A LITTLE INSIDE JOKE FOR US MEMBERS OF THE 'SOV CLUB'.

NEED MOAR QUOTES!

But yeh, the only important notification is the reinforced one. Let me know when one of you achieves that on a tech moon.

_ _

Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#60 - 2013-01-30 21:32:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Katran Luftschreck
Varius Xeral wrote:
More nullsec strategy and tactics from NPC corp specialists.


Someone who is knowledgeable about war in general can most certainly apply that knowledge to war in EvE, even without years of prior experience. What I jokingly (?) proposed wasn't EvE specific - it was just one of the oldest tricks in the oldest of books.

If he sends reinforcements everywhere, he will everywhere be weak - Sun Tzu

So if a force could sneak in a dozen stealth ships and mix one or two cynos in there, then do a simultaneous strike on a dozen moon and thus triggered all their alerts at once, then it's simply a matter of figuring out which of those alerts the victim does not/can not respond to quickly enough - and then launch your real attack there.

Preemptively do "scare" strikes without an actual assault for two weeks straight and you may just lull them into ignoring you altogether, not realizing when the real attack finally comes.

See, blob warfare is something you can see simply playing "Sword of the Stars" and paying attention to the Hivers. The strength of that race is that they can teleport their fleets to any system they control in a single turn, which means that they tend to just make one giant fleet to solve all their problems (sound familiar?). The way to beat them is to make sure you're hitting multiple locations at once. They'll either end up unable to protect to everything, or dividing themselves into groups small enough to defeat in regular combat.

If you really wanted to do guerrilla actions against the null-sec blobs there are other ways as well. For example, go after their ice-bot fleets and deprive them of jump fuel. Use your own blob to reverse-gank their gate camps at random and then just leave, thus causing fear & frustration with their lower-ranked guards who get stuck with that job. Have your spies on the inside pay special attention to their cyno pilots and you pretty much know everything they're going to do, or be able to do at least. And so on.

The main thing is this: The solution to fighting a Titan blob is not to fight it at all. Instead simply realize that Titan blobs are only possible through the presence of a massive support structure that is far more vulnerable than the null-sec alliances will ever be willing to admit (You can find plenty of examples of this amusing sense of denial before this post, and many more will most certainly follow it as well).

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0