EVE General Discussion

no because now I'm in a 0% tax rate solo corp which I'll pull down everytime you dec me, as many people have already said. it is no solution whatsoever. I would do this anyway if i were not a miner but there is no incentive as i do not pay tax for that activity.

Both accounts i own are now NPC corp possesions.

Fal here has 135m SP's (some in reserve i havnt used) ... and there is NO reason whatsoever to join a player corp. That is the problem. Why should i?

It's not about war decs--although i dont pvp, and would likley leave most corps upon them recieving a dec... I wouldnt willingly participate in PvP in any situation--even if you forced me into some NPC corp that was FW enabled.

Raise my taxes? fine. Most people in NPC corps mine, or build. The 11% doesnt bother me, as most of the pvp/0.0 corps i or my alts have ever been in were 10% to 100% taxes ... there's no difference there. in some cases i'm way better off. (many 0.0 corps bump taxes to 100% durring ops(that can last weeks or months) to discourage ratting--which is terrible income anyway!).

Add on top of this, the fact that most player corps are inept at everything they do, and abuse industry folks like myself... and i just NEVER have a reason to be in one. They want me to build this or that, for no profit, or free (hello, who mined it? bought it? built it? fueled that pos? ME. pay me. have some respect. PvPrs dont respect miners or builders, they can NOT tell the difference).

Go to 0.0 ... to .. pvp? joy. forced log-in times for forced ops to participate in some roam or other pvp camping session that will leave me with 5 horus wasted humping a gate, running from larger fleets, or lagging out when we're hot-dropped. That's .... fun?

go to 0.0 for ... mining? Put some more trit and pyer in the ABC's and make them 3-4 times more valueable than veld in empire, and you'd have a point... but as it stands, i can make a 2 week old retriever alt and mine more in 0.7.

make friends? i do that already, quite well in the NPC corp, where there are 400 people that i can help, mission with, 1v1, talk about ANYthing to, find fits, etc etc. player corp? 10-50 people who hardly ever talk, if they're ever on. I live in alaska. My time zone excludes me from just about everything. all the US ops are east-coasters, and i catch the tail end. all the euro ops i'm asleep 2 hours before it starts, and the ausies are 4 hours off as well ....

WHY? ... why join a player corp? it offers nothing to me whatsoever. Not more ISK, not nore people/friends, not more security ... nothing.

change THAT. (and i didnt even touch on the drama and pissing contests)

raise my taxes. see if i care. i dont. i'll mission less, and build/mine more.

and those that do care will create 1 man corps and get bored and unsub in a few months.

just like when they added the 11%.

next.

A few more ideas I've been toying with. Making NPC corps less attractive:
- Restricting trades/contracts between NPC and player corp members. This prevents people simply passing goods between alts to avoid the fees suggested above. Also makes neutral haulers more difficult to use.

- Passive bonuses for operating in the same constellation as the corporation's home office. This will encourage players to operate in the same area.

Some question how an NPC corp hurts me?

I can think of a number of ways.

1) I would like to "stake a claim" upon the asteroid belts in a particular system. Competitors that come in to mine "our" ores should be wardecable. We are merely defending our terf. No, we are not big enough to move into Nullsec, and we have no desire to be a renter. But we should be able to fend off competitors. I can't tell you how often I've seen entire systems stripped by hoards of NPC mining Bots.

2) The same goes for Signatures and Anomolies. We catch you scanning in our constellation and we would like to once again fend off the competition. It is most difficult to control a local market if there are swarms of "untouchable" competitors.

3) Yes, Ganking is an option, but it is a very costly and inefficient one in comparison to simply declaring war.

There are numerous reasons for conducting warfare, being territorial is one good reason.
Just imagine the tears if Player Corps and Alliances were unable to engage someone in Nullsec simply because they were in an NPC Corp, and they would risk having their SuperCap Instapoped by Concord if they tried.

See my point?

I'm not complaining, i'm just pointing out how futile it is to change this. I can learn corporate management in 8m. if it costs me a couple of million to set up a corp I'll tear it down in a new york minute and you might as well have bountied me. this is the reaction you want? 50M down the tubes and I'm laughing at you.

How do you crack down on alt play to avoid a wardec?

No, the ability to disband or drop from a corp at war is another part of the problem of actions without consequences. Eve's all about long-term consequences, and wardecs are a part of that. If you form a corporation you can't defend from a handful of guys and you refuse to hire mercenaries to defend you, get ready to stay docked up or take losses.

I love how they claim it's 'futile' to rid/fix NPC corps because of corp-hopping. That's what, two simply fixed things?

So continue to close loopholes involving wardec evasion, which includes things like NPC corps.

Yes they do.

if you think they use their mains