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Sami Okuuda
Doomheim
#41 - 2013-01-29 13:31:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Sami Okuuda
Greetings capsuleers, I have been authorized by Caldari Navy Command to release a short statement regarding the events of yesterday and the continued action of the Caldari Navy and allied forces. Because of operational security, I cannot give details of any current military actions being undertaken by the Caldari State at this time.

However, you may rest assured that no violence is being perpetrated by the Caldari State against its own citizens and any such accusations as such will be considered treasonous. All actions are strictly being taken in a military and security capacity, to protect the interests of the State, its corporations, and its people. We are acting on several sources of actionable intelligence to prevent a widespread security threat to both the Caldari and the cluster at large.

At the current time, the Caldari Navy remains on a state of highest alert and will be vigilant in defending the State from all outside threats.
Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
#42 - 2013-01-29 13:35:40 UTC
Is there any indication that this might affect loyal State capsuleers at any point, or should we stop hoarding dru... ammunition and ships, you think?

Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.
Noboru Tahvo Toivonen
Achura-Waschi Exchange
Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group
#43 - 2013-01-29 13:39:14 UTC
Sami Okuuda wrote:
Greetings capsuleers, I have been authorized by Caldari Navy Command to release a short statement regarding the events of yesterday and the continued action of the Caldari Navy and allied forces. Because of operational security, I cannot give details of any current military actions being undertaken by the Caldari State at this time.

However, you may rest assured that no violence is being perpetrated by the Caldari State against its own citizens and any such accusations as such will be considered treasonous. All actions are strictly being taken in a military and security capacity, to protect the interests of the State, its corporations, and its people. We are acting on several sources of actionable intelligence to prevent a widespread security threat to both the Caldari and the cluster at large.

At the current time, the Caldari Navy remains on a state of highest alert and will be vigilant in defending the State from all outside threats.


Good to hear and thanks for the update.

Should you require any additional hands, feel free to contact us and other loyalist organisations. I am sure you and your people have everything under control though, the Caldari Navy and Megacorporate police forces are the best the cluster has to offer in technological advancements and steadfast dedication.

We at TODEA wish you every success in your current operations.
Auvier Bauvon
Federation Navy
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2013-01-29 13:58:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Auvier Bauvon
Yesterday evening, the Federation Navy along with Tripwire and all branches of the Federal Armed Forces were placed on high alert in response to the mobilization of the vast majority of the Caldari State's military forces.

They will remain in this state until such time as the situation is resolved.

At this time we are pleased to report that no attempt to breach the Gallente-Caldari border has been made, and that fighting has indeed remained within Caldari borders, solely focused on populated Caldari worlds.

Regardless, the Senate, Federal Intelligence Office and Federation Navy continue to monitor the situation closely.

Coupled with this, the Luminaire Defense Force remains fully mobilized and on full alert.

Auvier Bauvon
Operational Admiral
Verge Vendor & Essence Division
Tripwire Intelligence & Command
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#45 - 2013-01-29 14:04:57 UTC
My sources are telling me that you have confirmed using tactical orbital strikes against this unnamed threat. Can you confirm this in writing here?
Anslo
Scope Works
#46 - 2013-01-29 14:11:23 UTC
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
My sources are telling me that you have confirmed using tactical orbital strikes against this unnamed threat. Can you confirm this in writing here?


I did a fly over last night of planets in Sujarento, Tama, and a few other Caldari contested systems to check on planet side friends of mine. I couldn't see anything that looked like an orbital strike against civi centers. My friends told me they hadn't seen anything either. But then again, they aren't very close to city centers... but I guess we'll see what happens soon.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Arve Vesren
Doomheim
#47 - 2013-01-29 14:16:14 UTC

The Directive Enforcement Department are currently keeping a watchful eye on the situation as it develops.

We have stressed to the involved parties, and will do so again publicly, that any attempts at breach of sovereign borders outside provisions made in the CONCORD Emergency Militia War Powers Act YC110 will be met with full and lethal DED response.

Regards,

Arve Vesren
S.W.A.T. Director
Directive Enforcement Department
CONCORD Assembly
Edaine Numenor
Numenor Benevolent Holdings
#48 - 2013-01-29 14:17:19 UTC
Sami Okuuda wrote:
you may rest assured that no violence is being perpetrated by the Caldari State against its own citizens and any such accusations as such will be considered treasonous. .


Well let's see. If a Caldari citizen or his family is the victim of any violence perpetrated by the State and has the gall to say so, he will be considered a traitor. So, no right of petition; no right of redress.

Liberating slaves wherever, whenever, and however I can.
Demion Samenel
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
#49 - 2013-01-29 14:30:59 UTC
Sami Okuuda wrote:
Greetings capsuleers, I have been authorized by Caldari Navy Command to release a short statement regarding the events of yesterday and the continued action of the Caldari Navy and allied forces. Because of operational security, I cannot give details of any current military actions being undertaken by the Caldari State at this time.

However, you may rest assured that no violence is being perpetrated by the Caldari State against its own citizens and any such accusations as such will be considered treasonous. All actions are strictly being taken in a military and security capacity, to protect the interests of the State, its corporations, and its people. We are acting on several sources of actionable intelligence to prevent a widespread security threat to both the Caldari and the cluster at large.

At the current time, the Caldari Navy remains on a state of highest alert and will be vigilant in defending the State from all outside threats.



Thank you Commander Okuuda for the information.


Captain Demion Samenel

Chief of Diplomatic Staff

News blog
Tykari
The Observatory
#50 - 2013-01-29 15:02:52 UTC
Sami Okuuda wrote:
We are acting on several sources of actionable intelligence to prevent a widespread security threat to both the Caldari and the cluster at large.


This does peak my interest. A threat to not only the Caldari but the entire cluster? If anything this makes the lack of concrete and detailed information all the more worrying, assuming that claim isn't somewhat exagerated. Of all the things I can image to be a serious threat to the cluster few of them would be containable by the might of just one of the Empires. If that message is meant to be reassuring I'm not certain if it succeeded.

In this dark void we are like brilliant stars, holding within us both the creative and destructive power to bring a new dawn upon worlds or plunge them into eternal darkness.
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#51 - 2013-01-29 15:10:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Stitcher
All the alarm and hair-tearing over the words "orbital bombardment".

Most orbital strikes (not all, but the majority) are precision firepower launched from small weaponry. Frigate and destroyer grade. a 150mm railgun loaded with tactical orbit-to-ground ammunition produces a smaller bang than some of the artillery used in warfare on the homeworld by our pre-warp ancestors. Tactical EMP rounds won't even damage any structures they hit.

Now, if there were dual 1000mm railguns being aimed down the gravity well, THEN the alarm and concern about civilian casualties would be justified. Those things can trigger tectonic events. But until I hear that the firepower being used is bigger than, say, 250mm, I see no reason to believe that these orbital strikes are any more harmful than the ones that our cousins the new soldiers are asking us to provide.

Act on the information you have, pilots, not on the information you fear, nor the information you desire.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders
Noboru Tahvo Toivonen
Achura-Waschi Exchange
Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group
#52 - 2013-01-29 15:23:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Noboru Tahvo Toivonen
Stitcher wrote:
All the alarm and hair-tearing over the words "orbital bombardment".

Most orbital strikes (not all, but the majority) are precision firepower launched from small weaponry. Frigate and destroyer grade. a 150mm railgun loaded with tactical orbit-to-ground ammunition produces a smaller bang than some of the artillery used in warfare on the homeworld by our pre-warp ancestors. Tactical EMP rounds won't even damage any structures they hit.

Now, if there were dual 1000mm railguns being aimed down the gravity well, THEN the alarm and concern about civilian casualties would be justified. Those things can trigger tectonic events. But until I hear that the firepower being used is bigger than, say, 250mm, I see no reason to believe that these orbital strikes are any more harmful than the ones that our cousins the new soldiers are asking us to provide.


Stitcher is quite right, having seen black box footage from some of my marines, precision strikes are exactly what they are described as. Tactical strikes, though many times more impressive, are easily directed, given an appropriate beacon to target. Even if these rumored bombardments are a reality, weapons testing on the large swathes of sub-optimal land that can be found even on temperate worlds is the most likely destination.

After all, even the most strident cries of 'press manipulation' would fall flat against the stark reality of a flattened city-block. Manipulating stories tends to work well on two extremes - whole populations in the case of cultural bias and white-wash or slander on the individual level. Covering up that tricky middle-ground of 'sub-national, but pan-system' goings on is hardly practical; someone always talks and it's hard to quiet a traumatised population.

Suffice to say I have every confidence that these operations are legitimate and in the interests of the people. Trust your leadership, citizens, they are the stewards of our strength and unity in these dark times. Celebrate your armed forces, they are your protectors and the steadfast line between order and anarchy.
Julianus Soter
Blades of Liberty
#53 - 2013-01-29 15:43:44 UTC
Arve Vesren wrote:

The Directive Enforcement Department are currently keeping a watchful eye on the situation as it develops.

We have stressed to the involved parties, and will do so again publicly, that any attempts at breach of sovereign borders outside provisions made in the CONCORD Emergency Militia War Powers Act YC110 will be met with full and lethal DED response.

Regards,

Arve Vesren
S.W.A.T. Director
Directive Enforcement Department
CONCORD Assembly


Efforts to breach Federation sovereign borders and planetary systems by DED-criminalized capsuleers have still gone unpunished. . . your words do not inspire confidence.

Moira. Corporation CEO, Executor, Villore Accords, @Julianus_Soter https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99001634/
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#54 - 2013-01-29 15:56:15 UTC
Yes, yes, we're all very impressed by your ability to sneer at people, Soter...

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#55 - 2013-01-29 15:57:07 UTC
Arve Vesren wrote:
The Directive Enforcement Department are currently keeping a watchful eye on the situation as it develops.

We have stressed to the involved parties, and will do so again publicly, that any attempts at breach of sovereign borders outside provisions made in the CONCORD Emergency Militia War Powers Act YC110 will be met with full and lethal DED response.

Regards,

Arve Vesren
S.W.A.T. Director
Directive Enforcement Department
CONCORD Assembly

Does this mean that, gods forbid, CONCORD is actually going to do its ****ing job for once? Truly, miracles never cease.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#56 - 2013-01-29 16:01:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Stitcher
Uka hikiin, suuolo?*

Yes, they're doing their job. I'm not sure what need there is for all this venom.

* (AUTOTRANS: "You as well, my friend?")

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders
Rinai Vero
Blades of Liberty
#57 - 2013-01-29 16:13:25 UTC
Noboru Tahvo Toivonen wrote:
Stitcher wrote:
All the alarm and hair-tearing over the words "orbital bombardment".

Most orbital strikes (not all, but the majority) are precision firepower launched from small weaponry. Frigate and destroyer grade. a 150mm railgun loaded with tactical orbit-to-ground ammunition produces a smaller bang than some of the artillery used in warfare on the homeworld by our pre-warp ancestors. Tactical EMP rounds won't even damage any structures they hit.

Now, if there were dual 1000mm railguns being aimed down the gravity well, THEN the alarm and concern about civilian casualties would be justified. Those things can trigger tectonic events. But until I hear that the firepower being used is bigger than, say, 250mm, I see no reason to believe that these orbital strikes are any more harmful than the ones that our cousins the new soldiers are asking us to provide.


Stitcher is quite right, having seen black box footage from some of my marines, precision strikes are exactly what they are described as. Tactical strikes, though many times more impressive, are easily directed, given an appropriate beacon to target. Even if these rumored bombardments are a reality, weapons testing on the large swathes of sub-optimal land that can be found even on temperate worlds is the most likely destination.

After all, even the most strident cries of 'press manipulation' would fall flat against the stark reality of a flattened city-block. Manipulating stories tends to work well on two extremes - whole populations in the case of cultural bias and white-wash or slander on the individual level. Covering up that tricky middle-ground of 'sub-national, but pan-system' goings on is hardly practical; someone always talks and it's hard to quiet a traumatised population.

Suffice to say I have every confidence that these operations are legitimate and in the interests of the people. Trust your leadership, citizens, they are the stewards of our strength and unity in these dark times. Celebrate your armed forces, they are your protectors and the steadfast line between order and anarchy.


Considering these events are taking place on populated words in Caldari Empire space, it stands to reason that there is a high probability of civilian casualties. This would be the case even if there weren't orbital strikes taking place, and only planet-side military assets engaged. Since we have confirmation of "large, intermittent explosions consistent with extensive ground fighting" it is almost almost a certainty that civilians have been caught in the crossfire. Even if we take the Caldari Navy at its word that civilians are not being targeted.

So, it remains to be seen who they are attacking and why.
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#58 - 2013-01-29 16:20:50 UTC
merely being on a populated world does not mean that the fighting is in populated areas. You forget that the State actually has quite a low population density dirtside - the largest part of our citizens live in space, and the largest part of our planetary colonists live in cities. It's a known fact that Guristas assets, for instance, prefer to operate from wilderness footholds in areas not claimed by any of the megas.

Besides, as was mentioned before, civilian casualties tend to lead to failures of the press blackout. The fact that we're still in the dark suggests to me that if there have been civilian casualties, they've been too few to note.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders
BloodBird
The Crucible.
#59 - 2013-01-29 16:24:44 UTC
Stitcher wrote:
Uka hikiin, suuolo?*

Yes, they're doing their job. I'm not sure what need there is for all this venom.

* (AUTOTRANS: "You as well, my friend?")


Given CONCORD's recent history, Verin, I'd say people have a right to be sceptical until it's proven to be wholy unwarranted.

The DED will prove itself, of not. And doubts laid at their feet will prove justified... or not. We will see, personally I almost hope someone somewhere steps out of line and get smacked down, then maybe the torrents of complaints towards the DED will fall silent for a while.

It would surely be a welcome change of pace...
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#60 - 2013-01-29 16:28:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Stitcher
You're exhibiting negativity bias. CONCORD and the DED do their jobs perfectly most days. No organisation is infallible, however, and the few failures we've seen don't outweigh the smooth running that we don't ever see because smooth running is not newsworthy.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders