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Mad Props to Newegg; Troll-slayer.

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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#1 - 2013-01-29 14:54:16 UTC
So, for years now there's been this little do-nothing company, Soverain Software, which has been nothing but a patent holding company for patents bought from defunct companies. They sell nothing, they make nothing, and the only innovative thing that comes from them are the rationalizations in their lawsuits.

Basically, their primary (only!) stream of revenue is legal extortion based on three purchased patents dealing with 'Shopping Cart' technology. Their goal? 1% of every transaction, anywhere on the webs, whereby the retailer uses anything remotely like a shopping cart. Their main weapon? Patent-friendly East Texas courts.

1% is a HUGE number, especially for a company that does, sells, makes nothing.

Along comes Newegg, who goes to the mat on the subject, and the patent troll gets crushed.
Cool

Now, I don't usually shop Newegg, but this makes me wanna go shopping right now. Lol This is part of a major re-allignment in internet and IT technology lawsuit precidents - Indefensible patents are being called out, and trolls are being put on-notice.

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Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#2 - 2013-01-29 15:29:44 UTC
Cool deal. The patent industry has been broken for some time I think.

I've been on neweggs site for the last week because I've got a late christmas/graduation credit with my mother. She said if I can find a SSD and a front bumper of the rover for under $600 she'll forward the cash and get both. I need the SSD something fierce because my drive that has my OS on it is quickly on the road out (pipe smoke isn't exactly helping the situation) and they've got 128 gigs for $114.

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#3 - 2013-01-29 16:17:56 UTC
Newegg always rocked. Lost count of how many computers I built ordering the parts from them.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#4 - 2013-01-29 16:41:32 UTC
It's been a while since I built a computer. Actually, I'm due fora new box... The old one is begining to wheeze pretty badly.

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Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
#5 - 2013-01-29 18:54:32 UTC
Sorry to be a party pooper, but I fail to see how stopping Mega rich filthy lawyers stealing off Mega Rich filthy corps is either good or bad or relevant at all to us puny poor humans in the grand scheme of Filthy Rich Megacorps and Entities.

I dont think any retailer with this great discovery will begin charging less for their products to us as end consumers ... just sayin´ Ugh

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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#6 - 2013-01-29 19:48:43 UTC
Maybe you're right. I don't think so, though.

Competition exists within the retail industry, perhaps more so online than in the brick-n-mortar businesses, and especialy so as compared to the catalog business.

This doesn't just impact one copmany, it impacts them all - including the small retailers. Anything that makes the smaller retailers more healthy will increase their ability to compete, and that will have long-term impact. Further, it removes a small but non-trivial barrier to entry AND eliminates a non-trivial business expense (frivolous and inflated payouts) while simultaneously removing an important element of uncertainty.

I'm a little surprised you went with that answer, to be honest.

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Jno Aubrey
Galactic Patrol
#7 - 2013-01-30 01:39:54 UTC
Brujo Loco wrote:
Sorry to be a party pooper, but I fail to see how stopping Mega rich filthy lawyers stealing off Mega Rich filthy corps is either good or bad or relevant at all to us puny poor humans in the grand scheme of Filthy Rich Megacorps and Entities.

I dont think any retailer with this great discovery will begin charging less for their products to us as end consumers ... just sayin´ Ugh


When the megarichfilthylawyers win, everyone's cost goes up.

I give money to NewEgg in return for goods, and am almost always pleased with the transaction.

I give money to lawyers only under threat of extortion, and am never pleased with the result.

I hope this clears things up!

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Kahu ia Kane'ohe
Perkone
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-01-30 01:41:25 UTC
Insane, ****** up in the head lawyers thought they could win this time eh? No...

Great article btw.

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#9 - 2013-01-30 02:15:10 UTC
Brujo Loco wrote:
Sorry to be a party pooper, but I fail to see how stopping Mega rich filthy lawyers stealing off Mega Rich filthy corps is either good or bad or relevant at all to us puny poor humans in the grand scheme of Filthy Rich Megacorps and Entities.

I dont think any retailer with this great discovery will begin charging less for their products to us as end consumers ... just sayin´ Ugh



Newegg has always been OK as far as corps go. I have yet to see them get a no-bid government contract or grease politicians to get laws passed that squash their competition.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#10 - 2013-01-30 12:20:57 UTC
Kahu ia Kane'ohe wrote:

Great article btw.

ars technica can usually be counted on to provide good info. Smile

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Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
#11 - 2013-01-30 17:38:02 UTC
silens vesica wrote:
Maybe you're right. I don't think so, though.

Competition exists within the retail industry, perhaps more so online than in the brick-n-mortar businesses, and especialy so as compared to the catalog business.

This doesn't just impact one copmany, it impacts them all - including the small retailers. Anything that makes the smaller retailers more healthy will increase their ability to compete, and that will have long-term impact. Further, it removes a small but non-trivial barrier to entry AND eliminates a non-trivial business expense (frivolous and inflated payouts) while simultaneously removing an important element of uncertainty.

I'm a little surprised you went with that answer, to be honest.


Not really, It´s a matter of opinion, biased really, but my personal opinion on the issue though. From this side of the pond, where I have to root kindles or install bogus third party apps so people can enjoy pirated software on their devices, I don´t see the benefit in a larger scale picture as you do.

Regions like Latinamerica, lots of them locked and relegated to top online content, and treated like crap simply because big megacorporations can´t enforce their laws easily down here is my issue.

To me its irrelevant if these corps continue doing business and have less legal hurdles thus promoting growth in e-commerce in your region and I think you can, at least, see my point.

Even Panama, with it´s so called Free Commerce Treaty with the USA, is still sadly lagging way behind other countries. Meh, even people with Ipads that dont want to lock themselves out of anything good and stay legit have to change their stores to USA.

E Commerce is just a big virtualization of national boundaries, and that is wrong, plain dead wrong in my book.

These issues cause little if any ripple on my ability, with latinamerican money to actually enjoy the same content.

A physical one I can understand, but a virtual one, its simply morbid, and even then.

The true revolution in E-commerce is when national boundaries and limits of accessibility to content are lifted.

But I´m talking about virtual goods, ok, let´s talk more in line with REAL ones, like the kind that new egg sells.

The hurdles I have to go through customs and local laws here, make almost anything, depending on tier and sector, cost from 15% to 45% more.

I don´t know if you are following me ... I´m thinking in terms of the guy that lives in a place that despite being gorgeous is treated like a backwater forgotten third world country by these same megacorps and entities that want to sell "Stuff" all in the illusions of lost profits.

I just soured a lot with all of this when Netflix finally arrived for Latinamerica for example. Having used Netflix in the USA I knew the type of content it could provide. When it arrived here, besides watching some 1950s movies on their catalogue and stuff like Howard the Duck and some weird Mexican black and white movies added as a supposed "bonus" that´s when I lost it.

The whole legal and copyright issue is simply absurd from my side of the fence. I can easily get for 1$ dvd quality movies in a copy on the market here, and If I am cheap, I can just leech the net off work to download pirated series.

Most stuff I want I have to either smuggle in the country (everyone knows how, but it never happens) or pay upfront with lots of $$$ to have it delivered here.

The unwashed masses of my tribe see no benefit in your growth potential.

Hope I made my reasons for saying what I said more clear, or at least, understood from MY point of view, since yours is truly correct and actually enticing.Big smile

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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#12 - 2013-01-30 18:05:15 UTC
Won't discuss the justice (or lack thereof) of your general position - that's a much more detailed discussion that involves things that the world itself has failed to solve.

One thing I *will* discuss is that a rising tide lifts all boats. And the crushing of patent trolls (which have, I will note, helped create the situation you so deplore) constitutes a rising tide, albeit a neap tide.*

You may be bitter and jaded, and you may have good cause, but you're crapping on a situation which is, at worst, neutral, and most likely (very) mildly positive towards your situation. It is in your best interestes that artificial barriers to entry be removed - you live in a situation where there are so many barriers that you may not see the benefit directly, but every barrier removed puts you that much closer to parity.

Still won't happen overnight.




*Read: 'Small.'

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