Linux

This is a pure interest Post, I understand eve is usable with Wine and I remember in the past there was effort to make a linux client which was put to one side when it was decided to be trouble/too much effort/whatever. With the whole steam fiasco at the moment and their push to make the Linux platform the new gaming revolution I’m starting to re-consider my setup. The main problem is if I pushed to move to linux and get learning the platform then there is one game I know will hold me back(you! Yes you CCP!). I dislike faffing around with games, especially ones that get updates often, because this will quite often screw the pooch on all your hard work. Just look at Day Z, as soon as an update comes out you had better just delete the whole game and re-download.

So here is my question. Will CCP be developing a proper linux version so they can guarantee they don’t get stuck and left behind?
Another question is would it just be made and delivered through the steam client as part of their thing? Would there be any difference?

Here’s a recent post from Slashdot on the Steam/Linux matter:
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Indeed the "linux Client" was wholeheartet.

A native client would be awesome.

Intergrating with steam is not going to make a difference, it will still execute the same software, wich is why the steam linux library is mostly filled up with Indie games.

The MacOS X version isn't native either.

It works with Cider rather than Cedega, but still the Windows code wrapped up in a compatibility library layer.

@OP: chances of truly linux native, OpenGL, no-win-quirks-leveraged version are very close to zero.

Chances that individual devs will take to heart to check the releases work at least with WINE and eventually do something to fix stuff in case of glaring issues: close to one, since it already happened in the past; while unsupported, our platform is close to heart of many people in Reykjavik.

Chances of a steam-delivered version: good, but most likely will still be WINE+Win client.

CCP will not port eve to Linux because it's not needed and far too costly. Eve runs perfectly fine on linux through wine. Afaik the only thing that doesn't work is captain's quarters, which is a pointless part of eve anyway.

Also installing eve on Linux isn't as hard as some people believe. Just install the latest wine version using the preferred method of your distribution, then follow the steps that have been mentioned dozens of times in this section of the EO forums. Basically once you have wine and the appropriate libraries installed it's simple installing eve, then maybe set a couple of overrides (depending on your wine version) and you're good to go. Hard work, imho not really, just a couple of clickity clackity more then on windows.

Also the updating of the client these day's tends to go fairly smoothly, the last time that there was a big issue was when the launcher was introduced a bit less than a year ago. Apart from that you should worry more about updating your wine client, because it happens that a new wine release doesn't not run the eve client correctly, but usually it is fixed by setting the proper override or downgrading your wine to the previous version you had installed.

I'd rather have CCP spend all their time and effort in polishing and improving the game then spending countless of man hours on porting the game to Linux.

That's patchable. I didn't like the fact that I had to pull Wine away from the package manager just to fix that, but after a little research, I was able to set up a nice little assembly-line for unpacking the source package, patching, repacking, and installing so that dpkg still knows about it (Ubuntu). It's only slightly annoying once you get used to it.

Speak for yourself. Nothing is more fun than to troubleshoot a new crashes every few weeks/months.

Yes id would love to see a native linux client.

YES it runs well under wine but why settle? I know we wont actually get a linux client. But if people truly want Companies to support Linux. Gotta quit with the well it runs fine under wine... Yes it runs fine but actually nativly supporting it would be better. :)

As far as the mac os client goes ya that was never a true client for mac os. Anyways it will prob be a windows always client.

its like this we know it works under wine but true multi platform support is win win for all.

For as much as I'd love the linux gaming base to be expanded, I also know how much of a resource drain a native client would be.

Fix POSes/roles/nullsec harvesting, then rewrite the DirectX engine in OpenGL, kthxbye.

This..

Also most game makers dont write there game engine's to be api specific. (also didn't ccp in one of there fan fests say there were working on making the client api less so it would not be dependent on direct x?)

Sonkut has a great point with the migration of Steam to Nix and the overabundance of popularity of Humble indy bundle with linux games (being that linux gamer tend to spend 2x more then there win and mac os counterparts.)

I think that CCP should actually start looking at mac and Linux as a viable platform.

Katrina Bekers as a fellow linux user i respect your input. The issue with POS/SOV and Role management lol has been here for years and i dont think they really have high motivations to actually fix it.