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i am looking to buy a ship for l3's and l4's

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michael Vynneve
Moonbeam Industries
#1 - 2013-01-28 20:15:33 UTC
i have just been getting serious with starting missions again and want to get set-up for l3 and l4 missions with a ship for each right now i don't have a ship for l3's anymore since my fleet abandoned me during a mission and got all the aggro and couldn't warp out i was flying a t1 drake passive shielded and wasn't having too much problems.


here are my skills: http://eveboard.com/pilot/michael_Vynneve

any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2013-01-28 20:51:51 UTC
michael Vynneve wrote:
i have just been getting serious with starting missions again and want to get set-up for l3 and l4 missions with a ship for each right now i don't have a ship for l3's anymore since my fleet abandoned me during a mission and got all the aggro and couldn't warp out i was flying a t1 drake passive shielded and wasn't having too much problems.


here are my skills: http://eveboard.com/pilot/michael_Vynneve

any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


You can do L3 and L4 in a drake as long as you have patience. Well VS guristas at least it work. Use the money made on that to buy something more efficient while you keep skilling up.
Red zeon
Sacred Templars
#3 - 2013-01-28 20:54:49 UTC
You sound poor.
just send me a mail with total price of everything you need, as in modules ship rigs, and total sum and il send it to you when i get home from work, aslong as you have sent me that mail
michael Vynneve
Moonbeam Industries
#4 - 2013-01-28 23:25:01 UTC  |  Edited by: michael Vynneve
Red zeon wrote:
You sound poor.
just send me a mail with total price of everything you need, as in modules ship rigs, and total sum and il send it to you when i get home from work, aslong as you have sent me that mail


i'm not poor my friend i just want a ship to hold me over on l3's till i get to l4's and get a ship for that simple. i should also add that i couldn't use much t2 equipment at the time because i took a break from the game for a while.
Mike Whiite
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-01-29 11:31:07 UTC
Drake for lvl 3 missions and lvl 4's when you're training skills that make the Drake stronger.

From there there are 3 options, al three have there advantages and disadvantages and in the end I'd train them all, but that is mainly up wath you feel is fun.

1) Tengu
2) Nighthawk
3) Raven/SNI/CNR

Maeltstome
Ten Thousand Days
#6 - 2013-01-29 12:05:40 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
michael Vynneve wrote:
i have just been getting serious with starting missions again and want to get set-up for l3 and l4 missions with a ship for each right now i don't have a ship for l3's anymore since my fleet abandoned me during a mission and got all the aggro and couldn't warp out i was flying a t1 drake passive shielded and wasn't having too much problems.


here are my skills: http://eveboard.com/pilot/michael_Vynneve

any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


You can do L3 and L4 in a drake as long as you have patience. Well VS guristas at least it work. Use the money made on that to buy something more efficient while you keep skilling up.


drake is loosing a launcher so i'd suggest not investing heavily into one.
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#7 - 2013-01-29 13:18:11 UTC
Really? You cannot google any fit by yourself among gazzilions of fits posted on Eve forums and on BattleClinic to just name 2 sources? It's not like L3s are so hard, any BC can handle them easily assuming you have skills to fly BC properly. And L4s are just about switching BC to BS hull and more skills, nothing mysterious about them and there are countless resources on the topic.

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Kery Nysell
#8 - 2013-01-29 14:30:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Kery Nysell
Just to be constructive and help the OP, here's a very basic Tech 1 Drake fit made in 45 seconds in EFT :

[Drake, Tech 1 basic]
Ballistic Control System I
Ballistic Control System I
Ballistic Control System I
Ballistic Control System I

10MN Afterburner I
Large Shield Extender I
Large Shield Extender I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field I
EM Ward Field I
Thermic Dissipation Field I

Heavy Missile Launcher I, Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher I, Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher I, Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher I, Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher I, Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher I, Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher I, Scourge Heavy Missile
Auto Targeting System I

Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I


Acolyte I x5

Change hardeners and drones according to the weaknesses of the enemies in missions, and be prepared to drop the Auto Targeting System when the balancing patch hits, but apart from that, it's a solid fit that should eat every level 3 mission under the suns of the eVe cluster ...

For level 4s, upgrade this fit to Tech 2 if you have the patience to munch through BS's tanks with Heavy Missiles, or Google for a Raven/Navy Raven/Navy Scorpion fit ... I won't do everything for you Blink

...

Marc Callan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-01-29 14:37:19 UTC
Maeltstome wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
michael Vynneve wrote:
i have just been getting serious with starting missions again and want to get set-up for l3 and l4 missions with a ship for each right now i don't have a ship for l3's anymore since my fleet abandoned me during a mission and got all the aggro and couldn't warp out i was flying a t1 drake passive shielded and wasn't having too much problems.


here are my skills: http://eveboard.com/pilot/michael_Vynneve

any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


You can do L3 and L4 in a drake as long as you have patience. Well VS guristas at least it work. Use the money made on that to buy something more efficient while you keep skilling up.


drake is loosing a launcher so i'd suggest not investing heavily into one.


Actually, while the Drake is losing a launcher, its kinetic missile damage bonus is getting boosted from 5% per Battlecruiser level to 10% per Battlecruiser level, so at higher skill training levels, it's a push, and at BC 5, you might even get more punch out of a Drake.

It's getting slower and heavier, and losing base shield, armor, hull, and capacitor, so it won't be as survivable as before.

"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." - Kurt Vonnegurt

michael Vynneve
Moonbeam Industries
#10 - 2013-01-29 15:18:11 UTC  |  Edited by: michael Vynneve
Marc Callan wrote:
Maeltstome wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
michael Vynneve wrote:
i have just been getting serious with starting missions again and want to get set-up for l3 and l4 missions with a ship for each right now i don't have a ship for l3's anymore since my fleet abandoned me during a mission and got all the aggro and couldn't warp out i was flying a t1 drake passive shielded and wasn't having too much problems.


here are my skills: http://eveboard.com/pilot/michael_Vynneve

any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


You can do L3 and L4 in a drake as long as you have patience. Well VS guristas at least it work. Use the money made on that to buy something more efficient while you keep skilling up.


drake is loosing a launcher so i'd suggest not investing heavily into one.


Actually, while the Drake is losing a launcher, its kinetic missile damage bonus is getting boosted from 5% per Battlecruiser level to 10% per Battlecruiser level, so at higher skill training levels, it's a push, and at BC 5, you might even get more punch out of a Drake.

It's getting slower and heavier, and losing base shield, armor, hull, and capacitor, so it won't be as survivable as before.


i almost have my heavy missile skill lvl 5 that sucks cause i loved the drake.
michael Vynneve
Moonbeam Industries
#11 - 2013-01-29 15:20:19 UTC
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Really? You cannot google any fit by yourself among gazzilions of fits posted on Eve forums and on BattleClinic to just name 2 sources? It's not like L3s are so hard, any BC can handle them easily assuming you have skills to fly BC properly. And L4s are just about switching BC to BS hull and more skills, nothing mysterious about them and there are countless resources on the topic.


The reason I made this forum post is to find a ship that isn't as op as the drake is well i should say was with how much survivability it had but with how much they're nerfing it i am looking to see if another ship is worth investing in or if i should just stick with it and wait till l4's and get a bs.
Kery Nysell
#12 - 2013-01-29 15:25:50 UTC
Well, according t what I've read about the proposed changes to all Tier 1 and Tier 2 Battlecruisers (to be renamed Combat Battlecruisers), the Drake will tank a bit less and gank a bit more ... so for missions, nothing changes really : you'll kill faster, needing less tank.

The Ferox looks like it will be a bit more tankied than now, and I didn't carefully read the other races modifications, but all in all level 3 missions in Battlecruisers should still be relatively easy ...

Now, I remember a time when BCs didn't exists, and you needed tons of skills to do L3s in Caracals or (for the truly mad) Moas ... kids these days ... it's way more easy to do missions now with all the ships and ressources available ...

*grumblemuttergrumble*

...

michael Vynneve
Moonbeam Industries
#13 - 2013-01-29 15:36:10 UTC  |  Edited by: michael Vynneve
Kery Nysell wrote:
Well, according t what I've read about the proposed changes to all Tier 1 and Tier 2 Battlecruisers (to be renamed Combat Battlecruisers), the Drake will tank a bit less and gank a bit more ... so for missions, nothing changes really : you'll kill faster, needing less tank.

The Ferox looks like it will be a bit more tankied than now, and I didn't carefully read the other races modifications, but all in all level 3 missions in Battlecruisers should still be relatively easy ...

Now, I remember a time when BCs didn't exists, and you needed tons of skills to do L3s in Caracals or (for the truly mad) Moas ... kids these days ... it's way more easy to do missions now with all the ships and ressources available ...

*grumblemuttergrumble*


I am also trying to find other ships to try (besides caldari) since I am trained in spaceship command in all races. Keep in mind though I have almost no energy turret skills beyond small lvl 1 I have skills that support gallente (my race) caldari and minmatar. So amarr is out of the question. The reason for that being I couldn't decide what I wanted earlier on and now I am paying for it.
Maeltstome
Ten Thousand Days
#14 - 2013-01-29 15:36:12 UTC
I have BC5 - been in the drake on SiSi. All i can say is: nano drake isn't anywhere near as good as it used to be.
gotyaa
ANZ-ACS
#15 - 2013-01-31 06:50:26 UTC
Drake all the way for l3 and 4 missions,just dont rush and think what your doing Big smile ,just got to keep one step ahead of the webers lol
gotyaa
ANZ-ACS
#16 - 2013-01-31 07:05:27 UTC
another good ship for doing l3 and l4 is the gallie drone boat,but most ships are as good as your skills,as they play a big part in the out comeBig smile