Wormholes

Number 1. Why did you put quotation marks on certain words? Who are you quoting? Is there a special meaning behind these words perhaps? Maybe you are emphasizing them, but I fail to see the emphasis.

Number 2. Yeah. K-space has own-able upgrades, NPC space/non-claimable space. Did you even put any thought your suggestions?


So ideas for more wormhole conflict?

I believe the steps taken so far have been too slow to be implemented. Those were a) killmails on SD ships b) logoffski removal.

The next step that needs to be done, which has been widely discussed, is to revamp POSes. The argument being it allows more players to join a W-corp without the fear of getting robbed. Secondly, the structure grind is a deterrent for conflict and this needs to be solved somehow.

Another issue is wormhole entrenchment. Obviously a well-organized corp/alliance should be rewarded for the efforts in making their current system secure, however the issue that many players find "disgusting" is the near impossibility of evicting an entrenched corporation. Personally, I think there is nothing wrong with this, somethings are made difficult on purpose and the perception of impossibility or asset committing is no mere accident on the defender's side.

Adding new PvE mechanics just attracts new farmers. PvE mechanics will never be a mystery forever because t will be understood in it's full character over time.

Even the intelligent nature of Sleeper AI is understood by any established wormhole corp now. Unless something state-of-the-art comes along, I say that PvE is not the way to make w-space more conflict driven.

EVE is about giving tools to players that are flexible and contribute towards the "sandbox." Find a way to give players a new tool to create conflict. Either that or a improvement, adjustment, revamp of existing tools.

The only good thing for that would be the decrease in pos fuel tbh.

Then you're better off of planting a pos in a 'locked down' k-space with a station/OP that has a WH-upgrade so you can nearly daily roam in W-space if sov is so special to you.

Best thing we want is improved POS infrastructure & conditions! All the rest is already given to learn and to master.
Oh yeah, the wormhole despawning graphics are also a nice to see returning.

Structure grinds and upgrades don't bring conflict, all they accomplish is more boredom and even less incentive to go out there and fight. "Why bother, we have our isk printer right here, someone wants to fight come on over we have our dreads pimped and ready to go".

More unpredictability for wormholes is how you increase conflict, for example by adding a completely random second static to each wormhole (by this I mean the connection can change between high sec, low sec, null sec and all classes of wormholes and once it collapses, it would be randomized again) and by removing the requirement to scan down your new static before it's visible on the other side. This removes the methods used currently for safe farming, and as such automatically encourages more fights without changing the actual balance of the game one bit (ie. the holes would still be mass restricted just like they are now).

I do think that better PvE would also help PvP/ganks. But better here does not mean "more ISK" but "more fun". PvE in EVE is so boring that many people do it only when they absolutely need to. What if PvE was changed so fundamentally that it was actually fun to do? There are a lot of single-player games that are fun to play, so certainly it is not impossible.

Fun PvE would make people do it a lot. It could even have lower payout per hour if people do it because they enjoy it and not only to grind ISK. This means that there will be more people running sites, more people to gank.

To encourage actual fights instead of only ganks, change all npc rats in low, null and w-space so that you need a pvp-fit ship to kill them. How? Make rats warp out and disappear when they are about to die, denying the ratters their loot or bounty. Unless players have a point fitted and prevent them from warping like they would in pvp. This way ratters are forced to "waste" a slot for a point, which automatically makes their ships somewhat viable for pvp.

The "fun PvE" would only exist in dangerous areas of space, hisec PvE remains as boring as it is. So even carebears will come into low, null and w-space, just for the fun of it. They get fun carebearing, we get fun killing them. And yet they will come again because it's fun. Fun for everybody!

How to make PvE fun? I don't know, I'm not a game designer. But it is possible. Design completely new minigames and make several different ones that are not similar to each other. Rats need to behave differently. Analyzing stuff should involve some actual game, not just activating a module on a wreck. Hacking should be a completely different activity, not exactly the same with a differently named module.

Give players reasons to be in space where they are vulnerable for most of the time they are logged in instead of only brief periods between hours of being docked or cloaked or idling in POS.

I hate how you guys are so quick to jump down someones throat for having an idea...

I've had a similar idea in the past and my corpies and i have spoken about it at length and believe that giving player the ability to upgrade their wormhole systems would increase conflict.

If we had upgrade structures that are only anchorable outside POS shields (like POCO's) then i think that would force more people to mount an offense instead of just posing up.

Great. Now whenever I say wormhole I'm going to stretch it out.


worm-hole
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worm....hole.

Because Nullsec isn't a gian't blue NAPfest, and is the perfect model of conflict and fast-paced action.

Only changes we would see is adding few more systems for players to use... which makes the idea nice if you don't like the one system then move on to other one....

Structure grinds are not much fun...

WH's with NPC stations? Aside from how terribad of an idea it is, it is moot as it will NEVER EVER HAPPEN

So far you have shown nothing that would do anything to cause more fights. If anything adding a bunch of new systems just spreads people out more, which makes it harder to find occupied systems for pew.