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What to invest 1T into? - 1 year afk
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AKilla Sunday
EVE Corporation 98582134
#21 - 2013-01-28 12:24:05 UTC  |  Edited by: AKilla Sunday
Turns out I've been sitting on more than i what I initially thought and peaked 1.4T after clearing wallets from all my pilots and corps.

From what I gathered from the feedback in this thread I will go ahead and invest the majority of it in T1 BS's while rest will go into PI and high end minerals. Some isk will also go to charity.

For those concerning themselves with the provenience of the isk : vast majority comes from manufacturing on I dare not say how many accounts, dot connection in all major trade hubs, null sec trading, presence in all major FW markets (very lucrative) and various forms of manipulating different items in Jita. I started with around 15 bill in the 7th month of 2012. No chest pumping or showing of my penis intended just letting people know there's more ISK to be made for way less time investment and/or micromanaging then any PVP or PVE activity (xept the old FW system). Hardest part is to setup your system and find the synergy between your accounts, your available eve time and some other minor factors and tweaks.

TYVM for the replies most of them where great and some not so much. Hope to be able to come back to eve, if that fails everything will be donated to charity.
Saveritrader
Sav Trading
#22 - 2013-01-28 12:30:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Saveritrader
Wow. That's a lot of ISK.

Edit: you should read the CSM meeting minutes and speculate on future plans if you're really away for a full year.
P3po
Perkone
Caldari State
#23 - 2013-01-28 12:50:03 UTC
That is why I find this interesting, you are trading and manufacturing guru who could make 1.4 trillion ISK from your 15B in 5 months .... and then you ask for advice about investments :D
Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
#24 - 2013-01-28 13:04:05 UTC
P3po wrote:
That is why I find this interesting, you are trading and manufacturing guru who could make 1.4 trillion ISK from your 15B in 5 months .... and then you ask for advice about investments :D

*cough* trading bots *cough*

Nyan
shar'ra matcevsovski
Doomheim
#25 - 2013-01-28 14:10:52 UTC
AKilla Sunday wrote:
I started with around 15 bill in the 7th month of 2012. No chest pumping or showing of my ***** intended just letting people know there's more ISK to be made for way less time investment and/or micromanaging then any PVP or PVE activity (xept the old FW system). Hardest part is to setup your system and find the synergy between your accounts, your available eve time and some other minor factors and tweaks.


seems like you know more about the market than 99% of us if you were able to make 1,4 trillion isk in just 6 month...I dont understand why such a tycoon would have to ask such a trivial question at all.



Kara Books wrote:

Most importantly, Invest a little bit in everything, Diversify diversify diversify, I cannot stress this enough.


wtf?

shar'ra phone home
SinTeryx
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2013-01-28 14:58:25 UTC
I think the biggest issue is those that are/have been doing speculation on a yearly basis are the ones making (or loosing) the most isk and don't want to just give up their hard work for everyone to hop on and most likely ruin their returns. That being said...find one of the big name players...give them the isk and ask for a low interest rate. I am sure there is someone out there willing to invest all that isk :)
-Sin

These may as well be farts in the wind but I have had a few beers since the start of this thread.
Aryth
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2013-01-28 15:40:01 UTC
Rakshasa Taisab wrote:
Aryth wrote:
50-100 in Planetary Vehicles

Wasn't the goon advice a few months ago to buy GS instead of PV cause PV was much more spread around amongst people? heh

If there's any left at a decent price that's where I'd also put more of my ISK. Plus I'd get to cash in earlier.


Not that I know of. I have never given advice outside of the collective until now, though I suppose someone else may have.

I dislike procurers as we know how much is out there, and it is a stupid stupid amount. Not that it is a bad investment, it just sounds more like he wants to come back and be able to liquidate a large portion of his ISK for usage. I could be misreading his intention, but if he wants 50%of capital back within a couple months cashout, minerals/ships/pi/plex are solid bets. Spreading the cashout across all of those means he gets his ISK back quick.

Zyd/Mega because any null revamp almost certainly has to fix anom mining somehow. BS fairly easy cashouts when you look at ISK/day he can get out of them. PI far less so, but that is where the big returns will come in general. So a nice mix of fast cashout and high % hits.

Full Disclosure, about half that list I am in now, or would be in, in the same timeframe as the OP.

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AKilla Sunday
EVE Corporation 98582134
#28 - 2013-01-28 17:08:32 UTC
Aryth wrote:
stuff



Indeed I am not in a hurry to cash out when the year has passed and will only need enough cash in hand to fuel my system if I feel I still need that ''one more billion and I'm out" and to equip my loot pinatas pvp alter egos.

Nor should I be worried if cashing out relatively fast is my plan since I foresee great things happening for BS's with the next revamp ...

Lastly for the negative folks posting I never said I was any kind of tycoon, I don't even know how to - nor have I ever bothered to - make my own spreadsheets. My only tools are some user friendly outside of game spreadsheet like tools for my shopping lists, windows calculator, windows wordpad and ye old thinking on the edges of the box.

Thanks goes out to all the good stuff passed here and all the 'can I have your stuff'' type'o mails, they where quite entertaining and some presented some very interesting arguments.


Cheers
Alex Grison
Grison Universal
#29 - 2013-01-28 22:06:40 UTC
All plex

yes
Cooyaw
State War Academy
Caldari State
#30 - 2013-01-28 22:13:10 UTC
Alex Grison wrote:
All plex


or that
Alex Grison
Grison Universal
#31 - 2013-01-28 22:21:09 UTC
Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
#32 - 2013-01-28 22:26:33 UTC
Alex Grison wrote:
Actually, Invest in Grison Interstellar

Here is our website, We are legit and your money is in good hands



i sense this man has the potential to do great things.

someone give him 20b & a bunch of geometric shapes already.

@JerryTPepridge
Claire Coffee
Coffee Inc
#33 - 2013-01-28 22:26:43 UTC
Claire Coffee wrote:

I don't see any commodity that would be worth investing into without substantial risk of devaluation except for PLEX which has seen a steady growth over the years, but again you never know what's on CCP's mind.


Shh you! Evil

[b]DRINK COFFEE Do stupid things Faster with More Energy[/b]
Alex Grison
Grison Universal
#34 - 2013-01-28 22:29:30 UTC
Jerry T Pepridge wrote:
Alex Grison wrote:
Actually, Invest in Grison Interstellar

Here is our website, We are legit and your money is in good hands



i sense this man has the potential to do great things.

someone give him 20b & a bunch of geometric shapes already.



A circle is a geometric shape.

All circles given to Grison Interstellar will be returned.

PLEASE NOTE:

  • Planets are a kind of circle
  • Triangles aren't that bad

yes
Kara Books
Deal with IT.
#35 - 2013-01-28 23:30:07 UTC
Arronicus wrote:
Kara Books wrote:
Procurers, if you can manage to find them 6M isk or below, AKA, ask around, 10K of them.

wait 3-6 months resale at 10M isk wholesale. or 12-20M isk once the othe 30-60K get used up.


"Not playing for 1 year"
"Wait 3-6 months then resale"

Why in the world would you give him advice to come back and resale in 3-6 months if he is quitting for a year. You know, hence the 1 year afk part... This makes my brain hurt. It's a good investment, but I fail to see any rational logical reason to come back and resell them in 3-6 months at (8m, if they go that high in that time frame) instead of in a year, when they have risen further.


Kara Books wrote:

Battlecruiser hulls, whatever is selling breakpoint mineral prices cheep will work.

Tier3 battlecruiser hulls are not increasing
Tier 2 are only increasing by 8-12%
Tier 1 are increasing much more, but none are selling at or even close to mineral prices currently.
Therefore, this is not a valid option. Price will drop from what they are currently selling, after patch, then slowly rise back to a bit higher than it is 6-12 months from now. If you want to capitalize, you missed the 'buy a ton cheap boat', and need to hop on the 'build a metric fcukton' boat.



Kara Books wrote:

I have a gut feeling trit may go up in price, by about 20-50%, Its just a gut feeling, might be worth to stock up on a few bill isk worth and then just wait for a Major event of some sort.


Many of us are predicting a decrease in the price of trit. Mineral prices have been bloated for some time, and are finally starting to go down a bit, on the low ends. With procurers, frigates, cruisers, and soon to be battlecruisers, then battleships all not worth building, that means less use for low end minerals. Additionally, in spite of the capital fight yesterday, super capitals are not being destroyed in any significant fashion. I can't see then, why minerals like trit and pyerite would do anything but drop. Especially if CCP ever bothers to act on fixing industry in 0.0, or at least buffing it for the winter expansion.

Cannot in good faith reccomend that you invest in low end minerals. High ends, definitely, low ends, nope.


why in the world is there a wall of text and nothing useful in there.
Eternal Error
Doomheim
#36 - 2013-01-29 02:33:01 UTC
I am a wealthy Nigerian Prince. Invest in me and you shall be rewarded.
Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
#37 - 2013-01-29 08:30:41 UTC
Aryth wrote:
Not that I know of. I have never given advice outside of the collective until now, though I suppose someone else may have.

Think it was coretwo in a thread about GS/PV.

I was in a several month-long process of exchanging about 4M GS for 3.5M PV at the time, and figured he was just trying to manipulate. However if that was the case I would have expected more demand for PV, and there was a period when PV prices were almost the same as GS.

In any case ISK was made.

Nyan
Lavitakus Bromier
WTF Bunnies
#38 - 2013-01-29 18:08:35 UTC
I wouldn't invest Alot into plex it's due to drop. As for Ships Alot of things can change.in a year so you never know with BS will hold value or even grow in value.

Aur well it might take a jump with dust. But with the state it's been for a while that also risky.
I'd go plexus aur and a bunch of different ships
t2 frigs is were I would put a decent amount.
Now with the.capital you got I problem wouldn't even be able to invest it all sadly. It's just to much for me lol IM just a small time trader aiming to mass a couple bil. I don't see the point of amassing so much I could pay for all my pvp needs as long as my trader/manufacturing.
gl and see you back in a year or so.
Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#39 - 2013-01-29 18:14:04 UTC
Plex, balls deep.

Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal
Terajima Kazumi
Perkone
Caldari State
#40 - 2013-01-29 21:03:56 UTC
P3po wrote:
That is why I find this interesting, you are trading and manufacturing guru who could make 1.4 trillion ISK from your 15B in 5 months .... and then you ask for advice about investments :D

This. Smells like bs, a bot, or maybe just a plea for attention.