Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Such as an 'Energized 400mm Nanofiber Armour Plate'?
Interesting concept, maybe sacrifice some of the raw armour bonus for a small resist buff...
Certainly more helpful in solo active fits and fleet ops with logo support.

I almost exclusively use shields, and I think this could be something that would help armour tanking out. Making your armour count for more.

If the bonus was small, like only a 5% or even 10%, I wouldn't even bother with stacking penalties either.

+1 for this, under-sized plates should have some additional advantages. Furthermore, we can see some interesting dual-tanked fits (I mean active+passive tanking, not what you thought, weirdos!)

That's something worth considering for the 800mm, 200mm and 50mm plates.

Armor repair amount will need to be buffed cuz it's already tight fit on most dual rep fits


Great, will make those slow amarr ships more viable in PVP



Fitting req same as T1 reps?

Btw do you plan to add some armor rigs that will affect modules like Armor Thermic Hardener? (cap usage, increased resists or something like that)

An idea about the AAR:

What if the AAR would only use up charges (and provide the 225% burst tank) WHEN OVERHEATED?
(if not overheated, any remaining charges just sit in the repper forever)

1. This would emphasize the use of overheating and the emergency/burst nature of the module. Either I am in URGENT need for more armor or I am not. So most likely I will want to use heat and burst at the same time (as long as the module won't melt way faster than it has spent all Nanite Repair Paste).
2. The specialty of the AAR as opposed to the ASB should be sustained tanking. Lets say I run a complex/mission whatever PvE thing that requires sustained tanking.
I am in a dangerous environment like lowsec and expect to be ambushed all the time. So basically, I need a ship that is BOTH capable of PvE and PvP (at least to a certain degree).
It would be a nice thing if I now could trade my required active tank for a weaker one (75%) with the option of burst tanking in an emergency.
Now, if the thing works like the ASB, I can't do that with an AAR. if I go in with the repper full of Nanite Paste, I cannot activate it without wasting the precious Paste to the NPCs.
And if I have no charges in it, I simply have a crappy armor repairer with 75% efficiency - I won't have the 1 min time to reload when ambushed!
So I would need an extra button "use with charges/without charges".
=> Solution: couple it to overheat.
3. Since Nanite Repair Paste will both be used for loading the repper and repairing heat damage, there would be a synergy. I just have to keep track of ONE pile of ammo.
Plus one can repair & reload at the same time. At least that works with ASBs. I pretty much overheat them all the time, the minute reload time is more than enough to repair the heat damage and the overheat bonus adds nicely to the burst tank.

Agreed. I'm not keen on this module being reliant upon overheat. That mechanic is clunky enough and I don't need more reasons to need use of it. The AAR could maybe have a switch, to allow either mode. When you're going to need it, switch the AAR mode on.

What we need is an increase in the base rep from armour reppers, this would mean the AAR gets an increase. This could be attained through either the final amount, or changes to timers and cap use. But either way I think a boost is required.

We need a 20% decrease in powergrid for large reppers, not 10.

An acknowledgement that the ASB, needs to be limited to the same amount per ship as the AAR. Whether this be 1 or 2 units.

The removal of the new skill, unless it gives 50% at level 5.

And maybe as you said, a new mod that boosts the rep like a boost amp. But the trouble with this route is the same old, same old feeling it gives.

I suggested several pages ago they should just add another tab, 180 degrees opposite from the heat tab, that means "burn charges." Call it the "blue tab," as opposed to the current green tab. If the blue tab is lit, then the module consumes charges when it is activated. You can light it when the module is on or off, same as heat works now. You can also un-light it at any time, with or without turning the module on or off. Without knowing all the black magic behind the current UI, it appears that a second tab would be a simpler and more conventional update to the UI than "split buttons."

The blue tab would apply to any module that has charges which you can selectively use or not use; both the ASB and AAR fall into this category now, although anyone running an ASB will probably have the blue tab lit at all times, since you never want to run it empty anyway, due to the heinous cap use. With the AAR though, the blue tab is a must have feature in order for the "normal" mode to make any sense at all. Without this control, you can never run the module except in burst mode, which defeats the entire point of its design.

Another thing the AAR needs to do is run in 3/4 rep gimp mode while reloading; otherwise, again, the point of it always burning cap and having a "normal" mode is defeated. Since they want this to work in a "different" way than the ASB, it needs to actually work in a different way, and that way needs to make sense. If not, then it's just some sort of gimp armor ASB with all the downsides and none of the advantages.

I'm still stuck at this "new skills" thing, soon enough you need to play eve off line for 2 years before you can fit a ship decently.

This makes the game more and more unattractive for newer players, I know already new players are not welcome no need to remind me, but the more skills like this are added the more this game the worst it will be for noobs.

Noob watches this

Then gets this

The easiest solution is just not to make it a repairer in its own right, but a repair amplifier, perhaps an "Ancillary Nano Pump". When active it cuts the cap use of the repaired to a fraction of normal, and increases the speed and repair amount by enough to achieve the desired burst tanking effect. Divorcing the paste from the reps allows you to set the consumption rate to the desired time frame, allows the use of the rep at its full normal value without having to worry about extra fiddly buttons that don't exist yet, and allows the benefit to scale with whatever repairer you are using from t1 to officer mods.

fozzie, if you fix armor tanking I will let you sleep with my girlfriend.

Please just make sure that after the changes amarr ships still have the PG to fit a tank and guns. The cruiser line finally is able to not have to fit undersized guns so a double check that the change to rigs won't restrict them back to using undersized guns is all I ask.