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Rococho Ranger
Rangers of the One
#1 - 2013-01-26 19:27:36 UTC
I just got killed while solo mining in a 0.5 system.
I understood that you could only be attacked by players without concord saving you if you were at war, in the same gang or in the same corp.

Given that can someone please explain how he was able to kill me and get away unscaved? because if the rules have changed then I missed the memo and need to know.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-01-26 19:29:00 UTC
have you had suspect flag?

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Rococho Ranger
Rangers of the One
#3 - 2013-01-26 20:01:36 UTC
not to my knowledge, I was just mining in a barge, I don't think I even had drones deployed
Cat Casidy
Percussive Diplomacy
Sedition.
#4 - 2013-01-26 20:25:39 UTC
Rococho Ranger wrote:
I just got killed while solo mining in a 0.5 system.
I understood that you could only be attacked by players without concord saving you if you were at war, in the same gang or in the same corp.



bolded the important part, concord doesn't save you, it just takes revenge for your death.

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ALUCARD 1208
Jerkasaurus Wrecks Inc.
Sedition.
#5 - 2013-01-26 20:26:24 UTC
theres plenty of time in a 0.5 to gank a mining ship before concord intervenes think its something like 20 seconds maybe more

BEBOPS ODE TO PERUNGA
SaltyandSweet
Oblivion Watch
HYDRA RELOADED
#6 - 2013-01-26 20:34:04 UTC
Rococho Ranger wrote:
I just got killed while solo mining in a 0.5 system.

i just outlined what you did wrong, study it and learn not to make the same mistake.

Im So Baller I Buy Plex Cuz im too lazy to do PVE!
Cat Casidy
Percussive Diplomacy
Sedition.
#7 - 2013-01-26 20:34:13 UTC
enough time for a gank thrasher to usually get 3 maybe 4 shots off before exploding.

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Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#8 - 2013-01-26 20:49:16 UTC
Take pretty much any 0.5 system in eve.

Look it up on Eve-kill.

BYDI recruitment closed-ish

March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-01-26 20:59:45 UTC
this part bothers me a little. unless this is not true.
Rococho Ranger wrote:
... he was able to kill me and get away unscaved?

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Cat Casidy
Percussive Diplomacy
Sedition.
#10 - 2013-01-26 21:06:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Cat Casidy
Not getting killed by concord is an exploit, so highly doubtful. Concord takes a while to show up in .5's so either the op warped away before he saw concord arrive or got podded before and just never saw his attacker explode.

-edit- since im bored reinstalling windows i looked up the kill and yes his attacker did get concorded.

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Rococho Ranger
Rangers of the One
#11 - 2013-01-26 21:56:51 UTC
thanks for those of you who clarified without the sarcasm.

It has never happened to me before and years ago concord always seemed to respond near instantly.

But, now that I know this is not the case then I know to change how I work.
Cheers.
Machiavelli's Nemesis
Angry Mustellid
#12 - 2013-01-26 22:30:32 UTC
Rococho Ranger wrote:
thanks for those of you who clarified without the sarcasm.

It has never happened to me before and years ago concord always seemed to respond near instantly.

But, now that I know this is not the case then I know to change how I work.
Cheers.


Concord response times vary depending on the sec level. In 1.0 an 0.9 it's almost instantaneous, in 0.5 it's 20 odd seconds.
Whang'Lo
Cosmically Irrelevant
#13 - 2013-01-27 11:08:29 UTC
I'm thinking no tank

You got killed by a pretty standard destroyer suicide gank.

I have survived x5 of these in my retriever now.

A DCU II works wonders.



[u]A Paranoid is just someone with all the facts - William Burroughs[/u]
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-01-27 13:42:49 UTC
CONCORD does not protect victims. It provides consequences for villains. If you fit your ship correctly, these consequences will - not always, but quite often - occur before your ship is destroyed. Tank your ship well and fit combat drones. If you really want to have a little fun, Google-search and fit a "bait Procurer," purposely set yourself up for ganks and then watch the bewilderment and growing panic of your enemies as they suddenly find themselves pointed by a mining barge they inexplicably can't kill.

No, seriously, try the bait Procurer. It is literally the funniest thing ever, and almost no ganker who hasn't already encountered one understands how they work.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#15 - 2013-01-27 21:01:41 UTC
You should mine in Abudban instead. I hear the weather is nice this time of year.

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist
Cage Man
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#16 - 2013-01-27 21:28:44 UTC
You need to put some tank on your barge, lots of gankers about these days. Also set drones to aggressive, that way you at least get a KM.
I am very curious though if CCP keeps an eye on how often people are cycling alts to do this. It would be really nice if trial accounts safety's were locked to on. if you want to be a ganker.. you need to suffer the long term "benefits"
DEFIER ORILIS
Defiance Eden Initiative
#17 - 2013-01-28 01:42:21 UTC
Did you get podded or just lost your ship?
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#18 - 2013-01-28 02:31:45 UTC
Cage Man wrote:
You need to put some tank on your barge, lots of gankers about these days. Also set drones to aggressive, that way you at least get a KM.
I am very curious though if CCP keeps an eye on how often people are cycling alts to do this. It would be really nice if trial accounts safety's were locked to on. if you want to be a ganker.. you need to suffer the long term "benefits"


Actually don't set drones to aggressive, because if your drones attack then it becomes "consensual PvP" and CONCORD won't show up at all.

If you're just looking to get away, ECM drones can't be beat. They don't always work, but they add a random element into the would-be ganker's game plan, and they can't stand that.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0
Cage Man
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#19 - 2013-01-28 03:02:10 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Cage Man wrote:
You need to put some tank on your barge, lots of gankers about these days. Also set drones to aggressive, that way you at least get a KM.
I am very curious though if CCP keeps an eye on how often people are cycling alts to do this. It would be really nice if trial accounts safety's were locked to on. if you want to be a ganker.. you need to suffer the long term "benefits"


Actually don't set drones to aggressive, because if your drones attack then it becomes "consensual PvP" and CONCORD won't show up at all.

If you're just looking to get away, ECM drones can't be beat. They don't always work, but they add a random element into the would-be ganker's game plan, and they can't stand that.


mmm I think you wrong here, haven't mined since the changes but I have an alt with a KM from a similar experience, he however survived and got a KM.
Mra Rednu
Vanishing Point.
#20 - 2013-01-28 07:39:10 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Actually don't set drones to aggressive, because if your drones attack then it becomes "consensual PvP" and CONCORD won't show up at all.



Wrong, learn to agro mechanic.
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