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Spring Collection - Why it's time to trade in apparel.

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Captain IQ
Innocent Traders Ltd
#1 - 2013-01-15 12:51:57 UTC
I'm not trying to hike the prices since the trade is doing quite nicely, thank you Sekret Santas, but I am suprised that Traders aren't taking this part of the market more seriously.

WiS is going to happen and when it does prices will go sky high especially on the older more limited items.

Once that door is finally opened and players start hooking up with one another in character then like Wow and similiar games players are going to want to look cool and wealthly, now is the best time to buy into the sector because it's about time something about WiS gets mentioned in a dev blog and when it does then prices will increase dramatically.

AUR bought items are an unknown variable in apparel since the vagueries about the aur/isk equation, but CCP has already shown that it will continue to release tons of apparel items in the future like the Xmas shirts and boots, this in turn means that like limited ships and trade items the older and rarer they are the higher their eventual value.

I'm as glad as the next player that these items don't have any game enhancement value but they do have a very serious value when it comes to players trying to be unique and different in their apperance either to look wealthy, cool or martial. In recent weeks I've noticed that a large number of Eve's trillionaire traders have been buying up the Silvershore Greatcoat, I've sold a lot of them myself and they're like a who's who of players at the top table of the markets game.

Another feature of apparel which is also unique is that they are the only items in the game that you can take anywhere in Eve and not lose in combat even if you're podded (at the moment), nobody can gank a trader and take his shirt! This means that whatever you can wear you can move safely anywhere and sell it, better still you can even transport it without getting into a ship! No other item can be transported instantly to any destination in Eve like apparel!

Look out for an update regards apparel items and rarity and also the possibility of a clothing investment bond I'm planning on creating.

If you have any specific apparel items you wish to buy or sell then don't hesitate to contact me, but as I said now is the time to think about your Spring Collection!
Tom Hagen
Twilight Empire
#2 - 2013-01-15 13:52:55 UTC
Since I am not one of the collectors, I didn't care enough when the whine threads was created here around Christmas.
But I do believe that there was one or two collectors out there who was upset because CCP re-released some item or items.
So with that as an precedence counting on it to stay an rarity item is a bit of a bet.

Also with the merging of Dust and EVE I think CCP has plenty to do atm. Also they are in the middle of a major re balancing of the flying saucers. There is most likely ISK to earn in the apparel market as in many other markets in EVE but it looks to me as a long term investment.
So for most traders there is better places to put there ISK while waiting on WiS.

I corrected your first sentence for you.
Captain IQ wrote:
I am trying to hike the prices since I have to much on stock, thank you Sekret Santas, but I am suprised that Traders aren't taking this part of the market more seriously.

Ofc you can be one of those very rare souls that wants to come in here and share the wealth with everyone!
In that case don't mind me ;-)
Captain IQ
Innocent Traders Ltd
#3 - 2013-01-15 14:04:08 UTC
Well it wasn't my main reason for posting, I'm looking more for movement in the market both to buy and sell.

The ishukone shirt episode ensured that 'limited' means limited to CCP, so the bets even safer than it was.
Bob Killan
Dzark Asylum
#4 - 2013-01-15 14:56:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Bob Killan
Captain IQ wrote:
Well it wasn't my main reason for posting, I'm looking more for movement in the market both to buy and sell.

The ishukone shirt episode ensured that 'limited' means limited to CCP, so the bets even safer than it was.


CCP failed to get the Aurum and therefore the clothing market going and they gave everybody free Aurum, I still have every one unspent and dont think im alone in this. Who cares what my toon is weaaring when they're fleeing in their pod from a big nasty spaceship or drilling holes in rocks with lasers.
Not too sure anyone gets a warm and fuzzy felling from taking 15 mins to walk from the ship fitting model to the incursions screen when it can all be done at the click of a button in seconds.
Im sure there may be a few basement dwellers that like the RL similarites with walking around their own space on their own but not too sure they're a majority here.
The team behind WiS have been "Temporarily" disbanded to other roles, and if eve's history is to be repeated it could be another generation before they get back round to expanding WiS. WiS achieve the massive hype CCP wanted and therefore its is no longer worthwhile throwing Dev time at it, the dev time will go where the hype is, as always.

You can try getting some movement but even if you gave people the ISK to spend on clothing items you will probably find the same issue as CCP, a lack of customers......
mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-01-15 16:20:44 UTC  |  Edited by: mynnna
Captain IQ wrote:


WiS is going to happen


This is where your premise falls flat. You may be right that WiS "may happen". Eventually. But oddly enough, things whose timeline for occurring are defined as "eventually" or perhaps "Soon™" do not make good speculative markets, because we know ****-all about the when and for that matter the how and what. The default clothing in the store is rather bland, for example. What happens when they do introduce WiS and, along with it, a tremendous range of clothing that isn't boring crap? Or to take the lazier route, what happens when they don't introduce any other clothes, but axe the cost of what is available tremendously, bringing it all in line with the idea of "micro" transactions (which they very arguably are not right now.)

I'd recommend rabble-rousing in a different market.

Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal

Captain IQ
Innocent Traders Ltd
#6 - 2013-01-15 17:08:05 UTC
...the very essence of speculation and the more risk = more reward, surely 'rabble' would more likely go for the safer alternatives like yourself.

No matter how many items of apparel are released the current items will always be the oldest if not the rarest - as mentioned.

Damn this is starting to sound like a free lecture, I'm guessing corestwo should be giving you this lesson instead of me.
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2013-01-15 17:33:07 UTC
Captain IQ wrote:
Damn this is starting to sound like a free lecture, I'm guessing corestwo should be giving you this lesson instead of me.

confirming that corestwo could teach mynnna a lesson or two Lol

.

mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-01-15 18:35:48 UTC  |  Edited by: mynnna
Captain IQ wrote:
Damn this is starting to sound like a free lecture, I'm guessing corestwo should be giving you this lesson instead of me.

Roll

Someone's a little clueless. Here's a hint for you: I'm one of the buyers of the greatcoat you mentioned, and it obviously wasn't on this character.

It's a great coat, incidentally. Much less ridiculous display of wealth than a monocle too.

Anyway, claiming that your clothing thing here is speculation is wrong and bad. Going out and purchasing every assault frigate in Jita because you read in a devblog that assault frigates were getting buffed in an unspecified way is speculation. Doing so after seeing the stats for yourself on the test server is informed speculation. Assuming that clothing items which are already "limited edition" (I bet in the wake of the t-shirt fiasco they stop explicitly labeling things as such, incidentally...) will continue to rise in value even without WiS is very reasonable speculation. But assuming that just about any other clothing items will retain or grow in value in an unknown date in the future and that CCP will not do anything to adjust their pricing or availability is not speculation - it's wild-ass-guessing.

Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal

Rengerel en Distel
#9 - 2013-01-15 19:07:25 UTC
Vera Algaert wrote:
Captain IQ wrote:
Damn this is starting to sound like a free lecture, I'm guessing corestwo should be giving you this lesson instead of me.

confirming that corestwo could teach mynnna a lesson or two Lol


The best part is "Captain IQ"

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.

Captain IQ
Innocent Traders Ltd
#10 - 2013-01-15 19:10:31 UTC
*Clueless about alts? Surely aren't we all?

Well no worries, that makes things completely different and of course I'd never wish to contradict a very valued customer nor another goon*, please forgive me.
mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-01-15 19:20:08 UTC
Ahha, I see the game now. Well played Bi...err, Captain IQ.


Blink

Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal

Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-01-16 04:46:14 UTC
No. This is stupid. Clothing is bad and you should feel bad. WiS is dead.

Captain IQ
Innocent Traders Ltd
#13 - 2013-01-16 10:33:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Captain IQ
Boots.ini are made for walking, (regardless of the humour/history).
Jenna Cerribra
Common Ground
Wrecking Machine.
#14 - 2013-01-21 08:11:06 UTC
I cannot be the only person who noticed this from over in DUST land: "The Mercenary Pack contains: 40,000 Aurum ( $20 value)"

So that's 40,000 AUR in DUST for about the price of an EvE PLEX (which is as of now only 3,500 AUR)...

There is no guarantee that the two price points for AUR between EvE and DUST will connect, but its a good bet. This is why I have recently unloaded my 1000 AUR token stocks. I abhor fear-motivated selling, but I'd rather come out close to even than lose bundles on what is shaping up to be a 15,000 ISK per AUR price point.

The good news is, it looks like few people have put these things together, so there's still time to get out . Blink
Salpad
Carebears with Attitude
#15 - 2013-01-21 13:38:44 UTC
Captain IQ wrote:
I'm not trying to hike the prices since the trade is doing quite nicely, thank you Sekret Santas, but I am suprised that Traders aren't taking this part of the market more seriously.

WiS is going to happen and when it does prices will go sky high especially on the older more limited items.


I have never doubted that WiS will bring in new players. Many more new players. And retain many who would otherwise have left EVE after a trial and maybe 1-3 months of paid subscription. Having a walkable avatar adds a lot of cool factor for a lot of people, including a lot who don't play EVE.

I'm personally only semi-enthusiastic about it, for a variety of reasons, but once WiS does come, I'll probably start caring a bit about how my avatar dresses.
Captain IQ
Innocent Traders Ltd
#16 - 2013-01-27 23:03:12 UTC
Jenna Cerribra wrote:
I cannot be the only person who noticed this from over in DUST land: "The Mercenary Pack contains: 40,000 Aurum ( $20 value)"

So that's 40,000 AUR in DUST for about the price of an EvE PLEX (which is as of now only 3,500 AUR)...

There is no guarantee that the two price points for AUR between EvE and DUST will connect, but its a good bet. This is why I have recently unloaded my 1000 AUR token stocks. I abhor fear-motivated selling, but I'd rather come out close to even than lose bundles on what is shaping up to be a 15,000 ISK per AUR price point.

The good news is, it looks like few people have put these things together, so there's still time to get out . Blink



I missed that, basically anything available with Aur from the clothing store is pretty worthless or soon will be...

...but the stuff that isn't i.e. limited issues should actually go up even more because the awful exchange rate between Dust and Eve won't effect them, still works for me.