EVE General Discussion

Nodes need to auto-reinforce themselves when they are overloaded!
Might as well drop the single shard if after TEN YEARS you can't have a suprise battle without everything going to hell.
And Dust barely worked, so that too.
I mean I don't know how hard it would be to do so, but it WILL be worth it in the future.
P.S
Time dialtion should be an emergency button, not the fix it all cure.

If removing nodes from one system and adding them to another automaticly is impossible maybe have emergency nodes that aren't applied on anything but when a node is overloaded they kick in?

I'm not saying they didn't do a good job with the software and hardware.
A few years ago a battle half the size would crash EVE as a whole.
But until they can reinforce nodes automaticly one of the biggest things pushed in the advertisment can barely happen.

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P.S:
The player count was the same as what you see daily in Jita, so I don't think it would be that much computing power.

Yes, yes it is, but there are things CCP can do to ease the pain of the poor node.

You are asking for something with a total lack of understanding of how these things work.

A reinforced node is basically a dedicated/larger node than usual, as soon as eve boots up after a maintenance systems start being dynamically loaded across the nodes (with special exceptions like Jita).

The loading screen you get when jumping from one system to another is often (but not always) a node transition too.

Once a node is already active, there's a piece of hardware handling all the stuff going on in that system, who is flying around where, who has who locked, missiles in flight, turrent mega-math, jamming, drones, reporting the locations of all this stuff to every other single player loaded on those same grids.

It's simply not feasible for a live seamless transition from one piece of hardware to another, you can do this with an Exchange or web-server quite easily, because the number of transactions and the response times are insignificant in comparison to an online game, where the millisecond response times are vital.

the only way to 'live reinforce' a node would be to basically either freeze the entire system (prevent people joining/leaving the system, stop all weapons fire, ship movement, velocity, active modules, active grids, grid sizes, other objects, all items in space etc etc etc), then transfer all that data over to one of the dedicated 'reinforced' nodes, then hit the pause button again whilst everyone continues.

The only other possibility would involve booting every single player out of the system (so... if the whole reason the fight started was due to a tackled super-fleet, said super fleet are now offline and safe and just won't log back in).

Time Dilation is the cure, its the only possibility in such spontaneous systems as your subscription and mine simply isn't enough for every single system in eve to be running on jita-level hardware for that one-percent chance that one day in the next few years it might suddenly host a huge spontaneous fleet battle.

I'm not asking every node to work at Jita level.
I'm asking for nodes to add up and help the node that is being overloaded.
But you explained why it isn't possible, so thanks for that.

Yeah then the titans would be offline. Sounds great for Boat.

I respond to this post with experience btw, I've been in fear of loosing my carrier pre-TD, with myself and a conga-line of over a 100caps sitting in a system we can't leave because of node-death, no idea if my ship will be alive, I can see it appears cloaked, my little remaining Isotopes used, this is far worse than TD.

This 'is' possible, but what you're talking about, or rather asking, is an entire re-write of a significant amount of code, perhaps the entire core engine because obviously as the programmers have been writing eve over the years, they've never coded towards the functionality of a pause button, let alone the services taking place to live-transfer mid-fight 2,000 players from one node to another 100% reliability

If the server can handle more people, more people will come, lets change 2.8k to 28k, dont you see how stupid it sounds, in a few years time people will actually be whining about how 4k people in a system is causing lag.

CCP dont seem to understand this pattern. Op are you really saying you want more people in fleet fights?

There's only so many people that can fit on the battlefield before the battlefield is full, the rest have to wait :)


It's a well known fact that eve can never deliver multi-thousand ship battles smoothly, the amount of data been shifted about for these kind of events must be phenomenal, and short of upgrading everything in eve's hardware arsenal to counter an 'accidental' battle causing lag then there's not much that can be done.

I figure that EvE's hardware configuration is optimised for the majority of players, not a couple of thousand in a battle, which is why if it's a known battle that's going ahead you ask for a reinforced node to be set up.

Even with what must be the most powerful node in the game assigned to jita, I've been sat on the gate waiting to get in with traffic control was in effect, and there were 2,300 people in the system, so even the node that jita runs on struggles at times. Surely you can't expect that kind of hardware to be assigned to everywhere?

I'm sure that if it could be automated then it would have been, instead they introduced TiDi to lessen the effects of lag.

Is true, however didn't CCP say that with TiDi that was capable, i'm sure at fanfest they said they do have the capability to put the TiDi at 0% and basically pause the game so it can be transferred mid fight to a reinforced node without any losses, i'm not sure if that still isnt' ready to happen and is still being worked on or what.