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Bane Nucleus
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#21 - 2013-01-25 22:26:46 UTC
Paikis wrote:
Why do I get the feeling were going to end up with another guy from a large alliance who completely ignores anything that isn't c6 related?


That won't happen

No trolling please
Doc Hollidai
V0LTA
New Eden Alliance 99013733
#22 - 2013-01-25 23:08:34 UTC
Bane Nucleus wrote:
Paikis wrote:
Why do I get the feeling were going to end up with another guy from a large alliance who completely ignores anything that isn't c6 related?


That won't happen


I second this, it will not happen.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#23 - 2013-01-26 02:35:48 UTC
Paikis wrote:
Why do I get the feeling were going to end up with another guy from a large alliance who completely ignores anything that isn't c6 related?

considering the 2 candidates currently up both live in low class WHs, this comment must be on some sort of level of genious I can't relate to...

There is no Bob.

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Paikis
Vapour Holdings
#24 - 2013-01-26 02:48:00 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
Paikis wrote:
Why do I get the feeling were going to end up with another guy from a large alliance who completely ignores anything that isn't c6 related?

considering the 2 candidates currently up both live in low class WHs, this comment must be on some sort of level of genious I can't relate to...


Jack... normally I like your posts, but you're making it hard...

Confirming that TLost and Talocan are NOT large alliances that live in wormhole space.
Also confirming that no one else is allowed to announce that they'll be running now that we have 2 guys (3 guys if you read the first page of this thread).
And confirming that no one ever votes for their corp mates just because they're in the same corp.

The CSM is a popularity contest where the most votes wins, and the most votes will come from those large alliances. Just like how there's a very large proportion of nullsec members, because those alliances have large numbers.

I live in hope, but let's be realistic about this. Anyhow, I'll stop crapping up this thread and ask that anyone who wants to continue this please PM me.
Casirio
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2013-01-26 03:59:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Casirio
Paikis wrote:
Jack Miton wrote:
Paikis wrote:
Why do I get the feeling were going to end up with another guy from a large alliance who completely ignores anything that isn't c6 related?

considering the 2 candidates currently up both live in low class WHs, this comment must be on some sort of level of genious I can't relate to...


Jack... normally I like your posts, but you're making it hard...

Confirming that TLost and Talocan are NOT large alliances that live in wormhole space.
Also confirming that no one else is allowed to announce that they'll be running now that we have 2 guys (3 guys if you read the first page of this thread).
And confirming that no one ever votes for their corp mates just because they're in the same corp.

The CSM is a popularity contest where the most votes wins, and the most votes will come from those large alliances. Just like how there's a very large proportion of nullsec members, because those alliances have large numbers.

I live in hope, but let's be realistic about this. Anyhow, I'll stop crapping up this thread and ask that anyone who wants to continue this please PM me.


so please tell me what is so wrong about a CSM member coming from a large wormhole alliance?
also, with that attitude no one else will run. Who's stopping anyone else from putting their voice out and being a good candidate? I will vote for whoever I think will get the job done best, and will not vote for someone I dont think will get the job done best. Their interaction with our small wormhole community and the points they will push to CCP as a CSM member is key for me.
Nathan Jameson
Grumpy Bastards
#26 - 2013-01-26 04:35:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Nathan Jameson
Ironically, I actually live in Jita.

>_<

With the amount of admin paperwork and diplo I have to attend to, also dealing with a personal POS, system, and scanning down exits each day just proved to be too many things on my plate at once.

On the plus side, I'm now always available for chat. P And, hooking up with individual corp ops is a lot easier now.

http://www.wormholes.info
Incindir Mauser
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#27 - 2013-01-26 04:46:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Incindir Mauser
Nathan Jameson wrote:
Ironically, I actually live in Jita.

>_<

With the amount of admin paperwork and diplo I have to attend to, also dealing with a personal POS, system, and scanning down exits each day just proved to be too many things on my plate at once.

On the plus side, I'm now always available for chat. P And, hooking up with individual corp ops is a lot easier now.


Wormhole rep that lives in Jita because he couldn't handle living in a hole.

: |

That's how I read that. Does not inspire confidence.
Casirio
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2013-01-26 04:57:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Casirio
Nathan Jameson wrote:
Ironically, I actually live in Jita.

>_<

With the amount of admin paperwork and diplo I have to attend to, also dealing with a personal POS, system, and scanning down exits each day just proved to be too many things on my plate at once.

On the plus side, I'm now always available for chat. P And, hooking up with individual corp ops is a lot easier now.


Shocked
Nathan Jameson
Grumpy Bastards
#29 - 2013-01-26 05:20:07 UTC
I'm aware how it could be taken. ;-) I really don't care.

Either you want me to be a good wormhole pilot, or a good CSM candidate and diplo. Both of them are full-time jobs.

http://www.wormholes.info
Incindir Mauser
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#30 - 2013-01-26 05:34:54 UTC

Okay if we are going to be electing a representative, I think we need to establish that the person at least understands the concept of representation.

Your personal opinions are subsumed by the will of your constituency.

This is why communication with your constituents is important. There's a saying in the military that you never complain down you only complain up. Our candidate, whomever we pick, needs to understand completely and thoroughly that this is a thankless task and it's not going to be a whole terrible lot of fun at times. You're going to be getting complained at a lot. Yes, you get a plane ticket to Iceland, it may be cold, but you are going to have flames under your ass no matter what you do.

Get too aggressive, you'll be mocked and shouted down by your representative peers. Do nothing and incur the wrath of your constituency.

Naturally large W-Space corps and alliances such as Transmission Lost and Aperture Harmonics will put one of their own up for election. It's to be expected. What we need from this person is sound knowledge of w-space, and open lines of communications to everyone living in W-Space. Not just those that live at the upper end of W-Space, like myself. C1's and the like often have their own residents and small corps. Just because TL and AHARM are the big kids in the sandbox, doesn't mean that the people they put up for representatives shouldn't be reaching out to the little guys and getting their thoughts and concerns as well.

For this I propose that we get some kind of diplomatic forum going. (If there already is one, I am woefully ignorant, and would appreciated being enlightened.)

Yes killing each other makes us better people. But when it comes time to pick our rep, we need to pull together as a community and work together. If only long enough to get the job done, and then go back to stalking each other with murderous intent.

Our representative should have good people skills and able to deal with the big egos of the null space crowd so they don't get drowned out when it comes to "bullet point" concerns W-space residents have. And I have to say that Two step has done a pretty good job so far. Not perfect, mind you, but pretty good. And I thank him for his time and efforts on our behalf.

Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#31 - 2013-01-26 08:10:52 UTC
Paikis wrote:
Jack Miton wrote:
Paikis wrote:
Why do I get the feeling were going to end up with another guy from a large alliance who completely ignores anything that isn't c6 related?

considering the 2 candidates currently up both live in low class WHs, this comment must be on some sort of level of genious I can't relate to...

Jack... normally I like your posts, but you're making it hard...

Confirming that TLost and Talocan are NOT large alliances that live in wormhole space.
Also confirming that no one else is allowed to announce that they'll be running now that we have 2 guys (3 guys if you read the first page of this thread).
And confirming that no one ever votes for their corp mates just because they're in the same corp.

The CSM is a popularity contest where the most votes wins, and the most votes will come from those large alliances. Just like how there's a very large proportion of nullsec members, because those alliances have large numbers.

I live in hope, but let's be realistic about this. Anyhow, I'll stop crapping up this thread and ask that anyone who wants to continue this please PM me.

ANY csm candidate, from any kind of space, SHOULD be from a large group so that he actually represents a good number of people... i would have thought this was obvious.
your comments are especially ironic since as already mentioned, both TL and TALUN have member corps in WHs ranging from C2 to C5 space and are probably the only WH entities with members living in such a large spread of WHs, unlike us evil C6 only corps...

would TL/TALUN be my first port of call if I was going to nominate a wh csm candidate? dunno, but they'd both be in my top 5 or so groups worth considering.

in any case, ANY wh csm candidate is better than no wh csm candidate.

There is no Bob.

Stuck In Here With Me:  http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/

Down the Pipe:  http://feeds.feedburner.com/CloakyScout
Bane Nucleus
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#32 - 2013-01-26 11:52:39 UTC
Regardless of anything said in this thread, Transmission Lost's votes are for sale. If you can outbid Cipreh, you too can have all the votes of the largest wh space alliance. This also gives a chance for those small. do nothing C1 corps to pay for your voice to be heard. REJOICE!!!!!!!!!!...
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...and pay! Twisted

No trolling please
Paikis
Vapour Holdings
#33 - 2013-01-26 12:05:20 UTC
Bane Nucleus wrote:
...and pay! Twisted


Do you accept payment in bubble wrap? :D
Kalel Nimrott
Caldari Provisions
#34 - 2013-01-26 12:30:25 UTC
I'm a whore. I would vote for the candidate that decides to remove nullsec scumm from wspace!

Bob Artis, you will be missed.

O7
Bernie Nator
Seal Club Six
Plug N Play
#35 - 2013-01-26 18:41:07 UTC
Kalel Nimrott wrote:
I'm a whore. I would vote for the candidate that decides to remove nullsec scumm from wspace!

We tried that once. They just stayed in a pos and logged when we blew up too many of them.
Axloth Okiah
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#36 - 2013-01-26 18:47:41 UTC
I'll vote for whoever makes CCP fix that HIC/cloak/bubble nonsense... :(

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Kalel Nimrott
Caldari Provisions
#37 - 2013-01-26 19:50:47 UTC
Bernie Nator wrote:
Kalel Nimrott wrote:
I'm a whore. I would vote for the candidate that decides to remove nullsec scumm from wspace!

We tried that once. They just stayed in a pos and logged when we blew up too many of them.


Till we fix the prices of wspace good, we should continue to do that.

Bob Artis, you will be missed.

O7
Royal Jedi
V0LTA
New Eden Alliance 99013733
#38 - 2013-01-26 20:58:10 UTC
Bernie Nator wrote:
Kalel Nimrott wrote:
I'm a whore. I would vote for the candidate that decides to remove nullsec scumm from wspace!

We tried that once. They just stayed in a pos and logged when we blew up too many of them.


YES! Lets remove all the targets from w-space! Make it even more dead than it already is! GREAT IDEA!

Anyway, off topic...
Bronya Boga
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#39 - 2013-01-26 23:24:38 UTC
Update: So we decided we wouldn't do separate interviews with each candidate since it wouldn't be very productive in our opinion. However we will schedule debates between the candidates and they will be able each talk about all the topics YOU care about.

So with that in mind I'm going to just ask you guys to put up questions you would want your future CSM representatives to answer. Keep in mind this will work just like the Two Step thread any trolls will be ignored and all good questions will be asked.

Also any discussion you want to have RELATING to the primaries\elections feel free to have in here just keep it to topic

Bronya
QT McWhiskers
EdgeGamers
#40 - 2013-01-27 02:28:30 UTC
Have two questions for CSM candidates.

1. Do you plan to bring your own concerns to CCP, bring the wormhole communities concerns or a mix of both.

2. Will you keep in touch with the WH community after you are elected? Or will you simply disappear into your WH never to be seen again?