EVE General Discussion

It's as if they haven't thought about anything they posted and just have a blistering hatred for powerful groups. I shudder to think of their opinions on those massive NPC empires in highsec.

Yay, flame wars on the forums. Back to the good old days of BoB!!! Moar, moar, moar, I say moar. ;)

In all fairness, you guys really need to start shooting each other or omgpornbbq each other in a sausage-fest deluxe.

Yes, I troll, that's how I roll. Don't take me seriously.

PVP has been sacrificed to them, what more could they want!?

Highsec is supposed to be safe, no pvps allowed. If only someone could grind this NPC sov then maybe pvps would be allowed.

You keep advocating the "little guy" and at the same time yell at those little guys for not knowing the mechanics.

Stop.

Just don't. Let people learn for themselves. Let them deal with all the problems and learning curve of sov mechanics. Enjoy your hiseccing, your homogenized nullsec is now lowsec pvp and try to enjoy your daily eve. Don't try to champion and be the white knight while yelling at others for doing the same.

Multiple threads, multiple discussions met by multiple people based on ideas I put forth and argued on many fronts... resulting in being told how I'm just trying to make null more like low.

As yo how many pages it took? Took only one. I don't log in everyday I'm not at work. When I'm at home, I play. When I'm not able to play, I check the forums.

And the result still was the same. Null is now being treated like low and and you are still trolling with your nonfactors chiming in.

Which btw does not bother me, if that's the intent, since when I am here, I will still respond. And I can read and see that you respond in much to the same way anyone that puts forth an idea that you do not agree with.

I did read the thread. Many times you referenced the little guy. That's just postering on your side to find a way to justify what you want to say. You do not care if it would hurt the little guy or not. Argument's sake or otherwise. You prove that by posting here when you tear down what anyone has to say about not knowing mechanics, that would make it more boring, that would hurt you more than us, blahblblahblah.

You'd be better off just not being involved since you know that much more and let us learn the cold harsh eve for what it is, instead of having you try to exert some sort of forum dominance that obviously wouldn't pertain to us anyways, if we would listen to you in the first place. Otherwise, you wouldn't be repeating yourself or find the need to take apart discussion structure instead of joining in on finding a way to fix it beyond complaining it is in fact a problem.

Yet when the actions still reinforce what was argued on my behalf, that should be proof enough. You only have your own corpmates and blues to thank for that. Go be bitter to them.

For isntance... if it's commonly known that timers suck, and sov has too many hp to be "fun", remove one element and increase the other.

Example- Let them have a billion hp, make them NOT have timers. Forget any argument about power projection since noone wants to tackle it anyways. Make POS always live. Encourage small and large groups alike to realize the 100% realtime risk (much like benefitting from skills working while not logged in) and maintain the playerbases that would benefit from multiple timezones. Oh, you need to sleep? Tough, let someone else handle it or stay awake.

Oh, that wouldn't be fair? You don't want to have to routinely patrol your live sites? Reduce your sov space for better guarding. Let the smaller groups deal with the same problems however they want.

But it still wouldn't be fair! Well, then maybe mechanic that would keep timers, make them recycle more frequently, and reduce the hp.

Any mechanic that would help or hurt would still require interaction. A common problem each side has is the fact that people have alts in highsec (or any other sector) because of how boring null is. That being said, sounds like you guys need more interaction.

That's still going to be player driven, because obviously waiting for ccp isn't the answer.

As you guys are fond of saying... "it's been this way for years".

Why bother, just cry about goons. Scorched earth, turn nullsec into a wasteland, if NCDOT can't rule it, sure as hell blobbers and Boat can't.

ALL THE CVAS LIVING IN POINTLESS SOV.
DIDN'T WANT THAT SOV ANYWAY BECAUSE IT'S WORTHLESS.

You do realize that it reuquires players to buy/build and then move to nullsec to deploy for structures? And that you need players to anchor a PoS then get the minerals together to build a capital? and that players are needed to manage moons? Players are still involved in all of this process although probably not as many as you would like.

I do agree it needs change though. It's pretty stagnant.

lol no

I didn't bother, I just spew stuff about how goons want to destroy eve. Thus, we need to destroy nullsec, or actually leave it in a state of nearly-destroyed-ness

Actually, I'd rather Goons be involved with creating ideas instead of only focusing on why everything is bad. Unfortunately, you don't. Even all of your posts alone prove that.

As to trash talking, it doesn't matter one way or another, but I still will contribute to these forums regardless of how bad, good, or random my thoughts are.

Alavaria would have noticed this but for the kneejerk troll posts she makes on a minute basis. Her arguments are to leave things alone. You guys need to get on the same page.