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HIC Bubble delay since patch fix it

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Yusef Yeasef Yosef
Doomheim
#21 - 2013-01-24 22:32:00 UTC
So a HIC has to wait to engage like everyone else?

Sounds reasonable.
Spurty
#22 - 2013-01-24 22:35:53 UTC
Elder Ozzian wrote:
Don't use cloak with HIC - cloak has the same debuff with hic bubble than other ships with targeting. You cannot create bubble right after decloaking - you'll have to wait that 10sec like every other ships does.


This goes for smart bombs as well

:O

If its a bug, someone magic my Typhoon back into existence please. I think I lost it 2 years ago ... so not new

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Maggeridon Thoraz
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2013-01-24 22:56:52 UTC
from the decription of cloak modules i think it is not correct having a delay.
the cloak says targeting delay. with a bubble i dont target anything. so imho teh bubble should get up at once.
if i use a script i shoudl get a target delay. I totally agree its a bug.
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2013-01-25 07:38:01 UTC
Maggeridon Thoraz wrote:
from the decription of cloak modules i think it is not correct having a delay.
the cloak says targeting delay. with a bubble i dont target anything. so imho teh bubble should get up at once.
if i use a script i shoudl get a target delay. I totally agree its a bug.

CCP are lazy to fix descriptions when they make gameplay changes, so using that text CCP gives zero f***s about as a base to clam that something is not "working as intended" probably won't work.

Then again, CCP's tendency to make stealth changes kinda does not amuse me.

Or maybe they just have no idea what their collegues do, all the time.

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Complex Potential
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#25 - 2013-01-25 08:18:26 UTC
Maggeridon Thoraz wrote:
from the decription of cloak modules i think it is not correct having a delay.
the cloak says targeting delay. with a bubble i dont target anything. so imho teh bubble should get up at once.
if i use a script i shoudl get a target delay. I totally agree its a bug.

Logically this makes sense. I really hope this is just a bug or yet again something I literally just invested in has been stealth nerfed.

If anyone else has something they want nerfed just let me know and Ill start training for it. Roll
Yusef Yeasef Yosef
Doomheim
#26 - 2013-01-25 14:47:25 UTC
Complex Potential wrote:
Maggeridon Thoraz wrote:
from the decription of cloak modules i think it is not correct having a delay.
the cloak says targeting delay. with a bubble i dont target anything. so imho teh bubble should get up at once.
if i use a script i shoudl get a target delay. I totally agree its a bug.

Logically this makes sense. I really hope this is just a bug or yet again something I literally just invested in has been stealth nerfed.

If anyone else has something they want nerfed just let me know and Ill start training for it. Roll



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Complex Potential
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#27 - 2013-01-25 15:25:47 UTC
What the hell is a ploit?
De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2013-01-25 16:11:18 UTC
As others have said, this was an intentional change, not a bug.

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JD No7
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#29 - 2013-01-25 16:16:18 UTC
Can't keep up with the bubble changes and lack of documentation thereof!
Tarunik Raqalth'Qui
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2013-01-25 23:40:11 UTC
De'Veldrin wrote:
As others have said, this was an intentional change, not a bug.

I can understand them wanting to change it intentionally (although there are yet more sinister tricks possible with HIC bubbles and cloaks Pirate ). Why the lack of a sentence in the patch-notes saying "HIC bubbles & smartbombs now have a 10s delay after decloaking.", though?
Maggeridon Thoraz
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#31 - 2013-01-26 11:31:29 UTC
if thats intentent this change, ccp actually killed a playstyle to catch people in wh . this sucks much ......
Axloth Okiah
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2013-01-26 11:51:19 UTC
Can someone from CCP or CSM actually react and respond as to whether this is bug / stealth nerf (and why the **** o.0)? Or should we start spamming bug reports?

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#33 - 2013-01-26 12:21:02 UTC
Wow those killboards are so important, aren't they?


I wonder if this is a test.

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Axloth Okiah
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2013-01-26 12:29:29 UTC
Nah, it's called "having fun", "being inventive with interesting fits" and "not arbitrarily limiting variability".

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Rutger Janssen
Chanuur
The Initiative.
#35 - 2013-01-26 13:36:10 UTC
Just file a bug report or petition for the question whether it's intended or not.

Also compare this to the normal interdictors. Are they able to launch their bubble? ECM bursts? anymore AoE mods? If one of those can launch in that delay, there's something incosistent going on and something needs to be fixed.

Yes, bug reports are the official way to get stuff fixed and they're processed. However to have bugs actually fixed, well.... you can wait months, and even years on that. Not sure if they still (onlt) have bug hunters volunteers to process the bug reports or actually paying people to go through the reports. In any case it does seem a waste of time and money.

Only way to get stuff fixed is to have multiple people file bug reports or direct dev contact. Nothing else seem to work.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#36 - 2013-01-26 17:40:49 UTC
They do need to make a call for consistency sake.

Does the de-cloaking delay affect all module use while in effect?
Does the de-cloaking delay only affect targeting while in effect?

For game balance purposes they could always make exceptions to either rule (best to be made in the players favor) and with clear sensible reasons why... but the "general rule" needs to be defined again as those exceptions seem to be shifting back and forth.

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bongpacks
Rules of Acquisition
#37 - 2013-01-27 05:17:23 UTC
I outlined the inconsistencies between HICs and dictors in my apparently hard to read post on the first page. All I ask for is some consistency or at the very least include all changes to game mechanics in the patch notes. If a dictor can uncloak and launch a bubble then a HIC should be able to uncloak and activate it's bubble. If a HIC can throw bubble on one side of a wormhole then jump through and immediately throw it on the other side, a dictor should be able to do so as well. CCP has basically gimped single bubble fits for dictors while at the same time making dictors the only way to bubble trap people in w-space without prematurely alerting the enemy of your presence.
Sutemi Otoshi
Future Corps
Sleeper Social Club
#38 - 2013-01-27 08:08:05 UTC
this needs to be reverted
Maggeridon Thoraz
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#39 - 2013-01-28 20:59:14 UTC
needs a bumb; and yes revert it ccp
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ISD Alliance
#40 - 2013-01-28 21:23:08 UTC
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