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Making Public a Grievance with CCP to show how they care about there Customer base

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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#61 - 2013-01-26 03:27:51 UTC
Shipasta wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Shipasta wrote:
I completely agree with you that hacking accounts is imorral and bad, And to be clear I do NOT condone or suport RMT. as i stated i made a mistake and have apologized for it and will never engauge in trading with them again.
I openly admit i made a mistake to wich i am not proud of.


You condone & support RMT every time you buy their isk.



I did it once mate.

you make out like i was the one selling isk and makeing a profit from this game, quite the opsisit, i recived isk that went into the eve economy. I didnt use it to plex an account to cheat CCP out of subscription money but to buy ships off players in the market to fly to enjoy the game.


Doesn't matter whether you did it once or a dozen times, you condoned & supported RMT. You hurt CCP buy giving a 3rd party money for their product & they punished you for it. You are 100% responsible for your actions no matter how you try & twist it around.

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So'Cari
State War Academy
Caldari State
#62 - 2013-01-26 03:28:35 UTC
Shipasta wrote:

I did it once mate.

you make out like i was the one selling isk and makeing a profit from this game, quite the opsisit, i recived isk that went into the eve economy. I didnt use it to plex an account to cheat CCP out of subscription money but to buy ships off players in the market to fly to enjoy the game.

Careful. When you rush your replies you're forgetting to put in the spelling mistakes.

'engauge' was nice though. Hope you're having a fun evening Lol
Silk daShocka
Greasy Hair Club
#63 - 2013-01-26 03:35:25 UTC
So,

You want CCP to give you back the isk that you bought from an RMT'er?

You claim to have 5 accounts or w/e, you should know by now that you could sell teh plex you bought with the intention of clearing you negative balance on an alt. Or, perhaps you aren't being honest in what you say, and the RMT amount is alot more than what you say, perhaps spread across all your characters?

Sorry about your tough luck. IMO CCP is in the right for not giving you back your RMT'd isk, this seems to be waht you are asking for.

IMO CCP should have just banned all your accounts permanently.
Shipasta
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#64 - 2013-01-26 03:35:58 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Shipasta wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Shipasta wrote:
I completely agree with you that hacking accounts is imorral and bad, And to be clear I do NOT condone or suport RMT. as i stated i made a mistake and have apologized for it and will never engauge in trading with them again.
I openly admit i made a mistake to wich i am not proud of.


You condone & support RMT every time you buy their isk.



I did it once mate.

you make out like i was the one selling isk and makeing a profit from this game, quite the opsisit, i recived isk that went into the eve economy. I didnt use it to plex an account to cheat CCP out of subscription money but to buy ships off players in the market to fly to enjoy the game.


Doesn't matter whether you did it once or a dozen times, you condoned & supported RMT. You hurt CCP buy giving a 3rd party money for their product & they punished you for it. You are 100% responsible for your actions no matter how you try & twist it around.



You seem intent on making out i condone RMT, as you stated i did at some point trade with an isk seller therefore to your definition i condoned it then and that point in time, To be clear i do not suport that veiw now and would strongly advise any one else thinking about doing it NOT to.

Apologies for my grammer and spelling im awear its not great thanks
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#65 - 2013-01-26 03:38:20 UTC
Shipasta wrote:
You seem intent on making out i condone RMT, as you stated i did at some point trade with an isk seller therefore to your definition i condoned it then and that point in time, To be clear i do not suport that veiw now and would strongly advise any one else thinking about doing it NOT to.

Apologies for my grammer and spelling im awear its not great thanks


Tell me how buying isk is not supporting the Real Money Trade.

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Shipasta
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#66 - 2013-01-26 03:41:20 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Shipasta wrote:
You seem intent on making out i condone RMT, as you stated i did at some point trade with an isk seller therefore to your definition i condoned it then and that point in time, To be clear i do not suport that veiw now and would strongly advise any one else thinking about doing it NOT to.

Apologies for my grammer and spelling im awear its not great thanks


Tell me how buying isk is not supporting the Real Money Trade.


I have only traded real money with CCP for plex since that trade with an isk seller. so I suport trading real money with CCP for plex. dose that help you get your head around it?
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#67 - 2013-01-26 03:41:31 UTC
This has been an amusing read.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#68 - 2013-01-26 03:45:33 UTC
Shipasta wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Shipasta wrote:
You seem intent on making out i condone RMT, as you stated i did at some point trade with an isk seller therefore to your definition i condoned it then and that point in time, To be clear i do not suport that veiw now and would strongly advise any one else thinking about doing it NOT to.

Apologies for my grammer and spelling im awear its not great thanks


Tell me how buying isk is not supporting the Real Money Trade.


I have only traded real money with CCP for plex since that trade with an isk seller. so I suport trading real money with CCP for plex. dose that help you get your head around it?


You seem to have a poor understanding of what RMT is & how you supported it by buying dirty isk. Hint: It has nothing to do with purchasing a product from CCP.

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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#69 - 2013-01-26 03:46:36 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
This has been an amusing read.


It's my new favourite thread.

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Ryuji Takemiya
Doomheim
#70 - 2013-01-26 03:49:27 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
This has been an amusing read.


It's my new favourite thread.


Has anyone told Shipasta to HTFU yet? That'll be my favorite part.
Haseo Antares
Production N Destruction INC.
F O R M I C I D A E
#71 - 2013-01-26 03:55:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Haseo Antares
Shipasta wrote:
Hi every one from the eve comunity,

I would like to post a public grievance I have with CCP and show how a loyal suporter and customer of this fine game is treated when asking for assistance to rectify his mistakes

I have currnently been punnished for succumbing to the temtation of recieving isk form an isk seller, and I now know that it breachs section 6.B of the ELUA

First off I would like to apologize to the player base for my breach of the ELUA if my actions have caused any harm to you I am truly sorry and I ask of your forgivness for my act,

I have offered a sincer apology to CCP and also brought aother 6 PLEX though the proper and sanctioned method provied by CCP so to show I will follow the game rules.

I have then since found that due to my wallet being negitive 3 billion isk I cannot even sell the plex to fix my deficit.

I then looked back over my paypal account and found in the last 18 months I have spent $1900 with CCP on PLEX and subscriptions. I feel that a little good will is deserved and asked that they make my wallet to a playable balance so that I may sell the plex and continue to enjoy playing eve.

I was refused this. now I know I have done the wrong thing and the rules were broken but I dont feel 100% responcible. CCP has made a free trade systen that is so easily exploited for RMT and has dont nothing substantial to change this. Its like going to a class roon and handing out candy to kids and then saying DONT EAT THE CANDY OR YOU WILL BE EXPELLED.

Also the isk seller that did the tempting and advertised the isk at a conciderable lower amount then CCP is still playingeve with out concerquince.

Im not the only one that makes mistakes. CCP I have endured many of your mistakes and forgiven them for example the unified inventory being brounght to Tranquility before it was ready with so many bugs that cause endless frustration, the many nerfs of great parts in the game. the ever increasing inflation of the market yet there is no increase of income for the new player base running missions making ships and moduals out of there reach, the captanis quarters that made my client crash every time I entered them many patches ago. Dust being brought to the server without asking what your current player base felt about it.

CCP im only human and I do make mistakes. I have aploagised to you and your player base and shown remorse for my actions and in good will spent another $104.97 on plex to show im willing to play by the rules. If this isnt enough to get a little good will from your company then I feel my time playing EVE online is over.

Take care every one and fly safe.


Imagine for a moment, that you have been married & loyal (exclusive marriage) for 19 years to the same person; one day you catch your significant other in bed with 6 other people (and farm animals for good measure). Begging for forgiveness, your spouse attempts to assure you that this was the first time he or she has ever cheated on you and that this will never happen again. Assuming that you do forgive your spouse and try to move on; would you force your spouse to regain your trust or do you use math and logic to fix everything?

At any rate 10/10. I have a hard time believing this story.

Edit: I'll leave this here : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgvM7av1o1Q

We currently have the world's greatest linguists and scientists trying to decode what you just said.
Charlepetit LaJoie
Trust Me Ltd
#72 - 2013-01-26 04:05:48 UTC
Haseo Antares wrote:
Imagine for a moment, that you have been married & loyal (exclusive marriage) for 19 years to the same person; one day you catch your significant other in bed with 6 other people (and farm animals for good measure). Begging for forgiveness, your spouse attempts to assure you that this was the first time he or she has ever cheated on you and that this will never happen again.

You forgot the part where the spouse says that, really, you are to blame. Then tells all the neighbors how unfair you are.
Winchester Steele
#73 - 2013-01-26 04:09:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Winchester Steele
@ shipasta the shiptoaster

Your inconsistent responses lead me to believe that you are trolling. If so, well played sir. If not and you really are as dumb as you sound, my condolences.Ugh

...

Incindir Mauser
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#74 - 2013-01-26 04:32:57 UTC
Shipasta wrote:

I have currnently been punnished for succumbing to the temtation of recieving isk form an isk seller, and I now know that it breachs section 6.B of the ELUA


Well that wasn't so smart, now was it?

Zero sympathy.

At last I have an example that stupidity hurts.
Kalanaja
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#75 - 2013-01-26 04:54:21 UTC
Good bye...good bye....don't let the door hit you where the Great Makers split you and whatnot. I hope they lock this. And I hope your corp and alliance keel hauls you or tars and feathers you on the way out.
Urgg Boolean
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#76 - 2013-01-26 05:14:23 UTC
Wow, sounds pretty brutal. I can't quite figure out how to make 3 billion without spending anything (consequence of a negative wallet?).

I think they should cut you some slack. If they don't, I just don't see HOW you can play anymore anyway. It would be like a 300 year mortage ...
Hir Miriel
Elves In Space
#77 - 2013-01-26 05:46:12 UTC
If you buy ISK or any virtual game currency, then you are agreeing with, and helping, players that scam, that hack accounts, that bot.

If enough players do that, the game dies.

So what is the point?

Don't buy ISK, it's the same as buying a gold medal in the Olympics.

Totally useless.

~ ~~ Thinking inside Schrodinger's sandbox. ~~ ~
Max Doobie
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#78 - 2013-01-26 05:53:17 UTC
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
sell plex with alt, donate isk to main?

BTW, you're not going to get much sympathy from the general eve community. RMTers should be banned, in my opinion.




Dude GTFO of here with that crap. You can ALREADY buy isk. CCP didn't do this out of some love for the game or fairness, they did it because they want you to buy isk from THEM, i.e. buy plex then sell.

If you folks hate RMT so much then why do you partake in PLEX???? That's RMT. No matter how you slice it, dice it, flip it; That's using REAL money to buy in game stuff that gives you an advantage over other players. The only thing "wrong" he did was buy from folks not affiliated with CCP not RMTing.
yer mammy
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#79 - 2013-01-26 06:00:20 UTC
Shipasta wrote:
Hi every one from the eve comunity,

I would like to post a public grievance I have with CCP and show how a loyal suporter and customer of this fine game is treated when asking for assistance to rectify his mistakes

I have currnently been punnished for succumbing to the temtation of recieving isk form an isk seller, and I now know that it breachs section 6.B of the ELUA

First off I would like to apologize to the player base for my breach of the ELUA if my actions have caused any harm to you I am truly sorry and I ask of your forgivness for my act,

I have offered a sincer apology to CCP and also brought aother 6 PLEX though the proper and sanctioned method provied by CCP so to show I will follow the game rules.

I have then since found that due to my wallet being negitive 3 billion isk I cannot even sell the plex to fix my deficit.

I then looked back over my paypal account and found in the last 18 months I have spent $1900 with CCP on PLEX and subscriptions. I feel that a little good will is deserved and asked that they make my wallet to a playable balance so that I may sell the plex and continue to enjoy playing eve.

I was refused this. now I know I have done the wrong thing and the rules were broken but I dont feel 100% responcible. CCP has made a free trade systen that is so easily exploited for RMT and has dont nothing substantial to change this. Its like going to a class roon and handing out candy to kids and then saying DONT EAT THE CANDY OR YOU WILL BE EXPELLED.

Also the isk seller that did the tempting and advertised the isk at a conciderable lower amount then CCP is still playingeve with out concerquince.

Im not the only one that makes mistakes. CCP I have endured many of your mistakes and forgiven them for example the unified inventory being brounght to Tranquility before it was ready with so many bugs that cause endless frustration, the many nerfs of great parts in the game. the ever increasing inflation of the market yet there is no increase of income for the new player base running missions making ships and moduals out of there reach, the captanis quarters that made my client crash every time I entered them many patches ago. Dust being brought to the server without asking what your current player base felt about it.

CCP im only human and I do make mistakes. I have aploagised to you and your player base and shown remorse for my actions and in good will spent another $104.97 on plex to show im willing to play by the rules. If this isnt enough to get a little good will from your company then I feel my time playing EVE online is over.

Take care every one and fly safe.



lol
Haseo Antares
Production N Destruction INC.
F O R M I C I D A E
#80 - 2013-01-26 06:06:20 UTC
Max Doobie wrote:
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
sell plex with alt, donate isk to main?

BTW, you're not going to get much sympathy from the general eve community. RMTers should be banned, in my opinion.




Dude GTFO of here with that crap. You can ALREADY buy isk. CCP didn't do this out of some love for the game or fairness, they did it because they want you to buy isk from THEM, i.e. buy plex then sell.

If you folks hate RMT so much then why do you partake in PLEX???? That's RMT. No matter how you slice it, dice it, flip it; That's using REAL money to buy in game stuff that gives you an advantage over other players. The only thing "wrong" he did was buy from folks not affiliated with CCP not RMTing.


Perhaps this interpretive dance will help you see the light: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOhycSTFa2c

We currently have the world's greatest linguists and scientists trying to decode what you just said.