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Making Public a Grievance with CCP to show how they care about there Customer base

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Shipasta
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2013-01-26 02:42:59 UTC
Alaekessa wrote:
Marlona Sky wrote:
"I served the community my whole life, but when I brutally murdered someone they tossed me into a cell and threw away the key. How is this right?!"


I think this is a bad analogy. There could've been extenuating circumstances which justify the murder you committed. RMT on the other hand, simply jeopardizes CCP's revenue stream which jeopardizes the continued stability of the servers which jeopardizes the stress relief of many many many eve players which in turn could (hypothetically) cause lots of murders.

OP should be tried for Attempted Genocide.



LOL RMT didnt in this case cause any hurt to CCP more so they will loose the money from my 5 subscriptions and also the monthly plex i buy,

I didnt have enough money in my account to buy 6 plex to sell after plexing 5 accounts with paypal. i was offered isk from a isk seller for an amount that i could afford, I do regret acepting the deal but to be clear that if i didnt buy of this isk seller i still couldnt afford to buy 6 plex off CCP so in turn they still wouldnt of recieved money in that instance.

So infact i have not lost revenue or stollen off CCP and the guy that sold the isk ive no idea how he came to have it but i would assume he generated it playing eve ? so CCP would of gotten paid by him for his subscription would they not? Im not condoneing RMT and what i did was wrong. but your analogy is far from reasonable
terzho
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#42 - 2013-01-26 02:48:41 UTC
You done ****** up boy.
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#43 - 2013-01-26 02:49:47 UTC
Some customers just aren't worth their money.

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Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#44 - 2013-01-26 02:50:38 UTC
Shipasta wrote:
Alaekessa wrote:
Marlona Sky wrote:
"I served the community my whole life, but when I brutally murdered someone they tossed me into a cell and threw away the key. How is this right?!"


I think this is a bad analogy. There could've been extenuating circumstances which justify the murder you committed. RMT on the other hand, simply jeopardizes CCP's revenue stream which jeopardizes the continued stability of the servers which jeopardizes the stress relief of many many many eve players which in turn could (hypothetically) cause lots of murders.

OP should be tried for Attempted Genocide.



LOL RMT didnt in this case cause any hurt to CCP more so they will loose the money from my 5 subscriptions and also the monthly plex i buy,

I didnt have enough money in my account to buy 6 plex to sell after plexing 5 accounts with paypal. i was offered isk from a isk seller for an amount that i could afford, I do regret acepting the deal but to be clear that if i didnt buy of this isk seller i still couldnt afford to buy 6 plex off CCP so in turn they still wouldnt of recieved money in that instance.

So infact i have not lost revenue or stollen off CCP and the guy that sold the isk ive no idea how he came to have it but i would assume he generated it playing eve ? so CCP would of gotten paid by him for his subscription would they not? Im not condoneing RMT and what i did was wrong. but your analogy is far from reasonable




Hrm... Question...

Why on earth do you have 5 subscription and still have the need to buy plex and RMT?

I mean people with multiple accounts tend to make billions of isk through Orca/Hulk setups or Planetary Interaction, but yet you claim to have 5 accounts and yet you seem to need a great deal of isk to play.

And people that buy plex to sell for isk tend to PvP and from my experience it is really difficult to PvP more than one account at a time. With that in mind, why would you need 5 accounts. If you are multiboxing 5 accounts and can't make enough isk to buy plex without subscriptions and still have billions left over, you are doing something obviously wrong.

What do you actually do with all those accounts?

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Shipasta
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2013-01-26 02:56:23 UTC
sure i make billions with my accounts I also like to spend bilions, I could easily plex all my accounts in game, I choose to paypal my accounts to suport CCP.

I did make a mistake and broke the ELUA and am sorry for this. tho im not a bad person and any one that knows me in game would say im a fair player and generouse and helpfull to other players.

I encourage ppl to play eve becaues its a brilliant game.

Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#46 - 2013-01-26 02:59:17 UTC
explain how using plex doesn't support CCP

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Shipasta
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2013-01-26 03:02:49 UTC
[quote=Andski]explain how using plex doesn't support CCP[/quote

it is entirly possible to self sustain your account without spending a cent. making in game isk and buying plex seeded on market by CCP
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#48 - 2013-01-26 03:04:06 UTC
Shipasta wrote:
making in game isk and buying plex seeded on market by CCP


so tell me what you think happens with the PLEX you buy from CCP and sell in-game

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#49 - 2013-01-26 03:04:39 UTC
if you're naive enough to believe that CCP gives away any significant amount of game time for free you're hilariously wrong

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Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#50 - 2013-01-26 03:05:47 UTC
Shipasta wrote:
sure i make billions with my accounts I also like to spend bilions, I could easily plex all my accounts in game, I choose to paypal my accounts to suport CCP.

I did make a mistake and broke the ELUA and am sorry for this. tho im not a bad person and any one that knows me in game would say im a fair player and generouse and helpfull to other players.

I encourage ppl to play eve becaues its a brilliant game.



You didn't answer my question. What are you doing on those accounts that require you to spend all that isk?

Are you self destructing frieghters outside of Jita? Flying 1billion isk faction fitted fits into Rancer?

Give us some hard facts about how are you spending all this isk which you apparently must have because you couldn't resist RMTing.

Also, technically because you are buying from an RMT, you are complicit with them and supporting their actions of hacking accounts. So that makes you a bad person because hacking accounts is illegal and immoral.

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Flakey Foont
#51 - 2013-01-26 03:07:10 UTC
Shipasta wrote:
[quote=Andski]explain how using plex doesn't support CCP[/quote

it is entirly possible to self sustain your account without spending a cent. making in game isk and buying plex seeded on market by CCP



Not what you did though huh?
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#52 - 2013-01-26 03:07:30 UTC
Shipasta wrote:
[quote=Andski]explain how using plex doesn't support CCP[/quote

it is entirly possible to self sustain your account without spending a cent. making in game isk and buying plex seeded on market by CCP


PLEX aren't seeded on the market, they're bought by players who sell them on the market. Stop trying to justify RMT. You did the wrong thing & got caught. You can only blame yourself.

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Mr. Orange
Band of Freelancers
#53 - 2013-01-26 03:08:09 UTC
Shipasta wrote:
[quote=Andski]explain how using plex doesn't support CCP[/quote

it is entirly possible to self sustain your account without spending a cent. making in game isk and buying plex seeded on market by CCP



Lol
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#54 - 2013-01-26 03:10:44 UTC
Shipasta wrote:
sure i make billions with my accounts I also like to spend bilions, I could easily plex all my accounts in game, I choose to paypal my accounts to suport CCP.

I did make a mistake and broke the ELUA and am sorry for this. tho im not a bad person and any one that knows me in game would say im a fair player and generouse and helpfull to other players.

I encourage ppl to play eve becaues its a brilliant game.



Makes billions, spends billions, needs to RMT, doesn't understand that buying PLEX off the market supports CCP regardless.

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Shipasta
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#55 - 2013-01-26 03:10:44 UTC
Captain Tardbar wrote:
Shipasta wrote:
sure i make billions with my accounts I also like to spend bilions, I could easily plex all my accounts in game, I choose to paypal my accounts to suport CCP.

I did make a mistake and broke the ELUA and am sorry for this. tho im not a bad person and any one that knows me in game would say im a fair player and generouse and helpfull to other players.

I encourage ppl to play eve becaues its a brilliant game.



You didn't answer my question. What are you doing on those accounts that require you to spend all that isk?

Are you self destructing frieghters outside of Jita? Flying 1billion isk faction fitted fits into Rancer?

Give us some hard facts about how are you spending all this isk which you apparently must have because you couldn't resist RMTing.

Also, technically because you are buying from an RMT, you are complicit with them and supporting their actions of hacking accounts. So that makes you a bad person because hacking accounts is illegal and immoral.



I completely agree with you that hacking accounts is imorral and bad, And to be clear I do NOT condone or suport RMT. as i stated i made a mistake and have apologized for it and will never engauge in trading with them again.
I openly admit i made a mistake to wich i am not proud of.
Ayuren Aakiwa
When i Look Up At The Stars I Am Filled With Rage
#56 - 2013-01-26 03:12:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Ayuren Aakiwa
Shipasta wrote:
Hi every one from the eve comunity,

I would like to post a public grievance I have with CCP and show how a loyal suporter and customer of this fine game is treated when asking for assistance to rectify his mistakes

I have currnently been punnished for succumbing to the temtation of recieving isk form an isk seller, and I now know that it breachs section 6.B of the ELUA

First off I would like to apologize to the player base for my breach of the ELUA if my actions have caused any harm to you I am truly sorry and I ask of your forgivness for my act,

I have offered a sincer apology to CCP and also brought aother 6 PLEX though the proper and sanctioned method provied by CCP so to show I will follow the game rules.

I have then since found that due to my wallet being negitive 3 billion isk I cannot even sell the plex to fix my deficit.

I then looked back over my paypal account and found in the last 18 months I have spent $1900 with CCP on PLEX and subscriptions. I feel that a little good will is deserved and asked that they make my wallet to a playable balance so that I may sell the plex and continue to enjoy playing eve.

I was refused this. now I know I have done the wrong thing and the rules were broken but I dont feel 100% responcible. CCP has made a free trade systen that is so easily exploited for RMT and has dont nothing substantial to change this. Its like going to a class roon and handing out candy to kids and then saying DONT EAT THE CANDY OR YOU WILL BE EXPELLED.

Also the isk seller that did the tempting and advertised the isk at a conciderable lower amount then CCP is still playingeve with out concerquince.

Im not the only one that makes mistakes. CCP I have endured many of your mistakes and forgiven them for example the unified inventory being brounght to Tranquility before it was ready with so many bugs that cause endless frustration, the many nerfs of great parts in the game. the ever increasing inflation of the market yet there is no increase of income for the new player base running missions making ships and moduals out of there reach, the captanis quarters that made my client crash every time I entered them many patches ago. Dust being brought to the server without asking what your current player base felt about it.

CCP im only human and I do make mistakes. I have aploagised to you and your player base and shown remorse for my actions and in good will spent another $104.97 on plex to show im willing to play by the rules. If this isnt enough to get a little good will from your company then I feel my time playing EVE online is over.

Take care every one and fly safe.



LMFAO thank you op this made my night a bit more entertaining. Wtf did you expect to happen when you participated in RMT? I also think your attempts at bribing CCP with plex purchases are ******* hilarious. Have a good night/day op, thanks for the laugh.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#57 - 2013-01-26 03:12:14 UTC
Shipasta wrote:
I completely agree with you that hacking accounts is imorral and bad, And to be clear I do NOT condone or suport RMT. as i stated i made a mistake and have apologized for it and will never engauge in trading with them again.
I openly admit i made a mistake to wich i am not proud of.


You condone & support RMT every time you buy their isk.

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Shipasta
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#58 - 2013-01-26 03:18:30 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Shipasta wrote:
I completely agree with you that hacking accounts is imorral and bad, And to be clear I do NOT condone or suport RMT. as i stated i made a mistake and have apologized for it and will never engauge in trading with them again.
I openly admit i made a mistake to wich i am not proud of.


You condone & support RMT every time you buy their isk.



I did it once mate.

you make out like i was the one selling isk and makeing a profit from this game, quite the opsisit, i recived isk that went into the eve economy. I didnt use it to plex an account to cheat CCP out of subscription money but to buy ships off players in the market to fly to enjoy the game.
Peter Raptor
Galactic Hawks
#59 - 2013-01-26 03:20:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Peter Raptor
Why on earth, after legally spending $1900 on eve , would you then risk being banned and punished by spending a measly $60 on RMT???????

LOL

Anyway start new account, buy plex, transfer LEGAL isk P

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Shipasta
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#60 - 2013-01-26 03:22:18 UTC
Peter Raptor wrote:
Why on earth, after legally spending $1900 on eve , would you then risk being banned and punished by spending a measly $60 on RMT???????

LOL

Temtation i guess at the time in my own veiw i didnt think i was hurting any one or eve, in hind sight it was a poor dicission and im regretfull of it.