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Making Public a Grievance with CCP to show how they care about there Customer base

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Shipasta
Kenshin.
Fraternity.
#21 - 2013-01-26 01:12:55 UTC
Captain Tardbar wrote:
You know, if you started giving people random amounts of isk, we might support your position.

Say 100 million isk worth might get me to say something nice on your behalf on the forums.



Ive given billions away in this game but i dont feel buying good responces is what i was looking for. I wanted to hear the comunitys unbiased veiws and to wich mostly negetive i do appreciate that they are honest.
Xessej
Perkone
Caldari State
#22 - 2013-01-26 01:14:39 UTC
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
RMTers should be banned, in my opinion.


All characters deleted, all assets removed and ip banned would be better. Certainly forum posting privileges should be incumbent on having a positive wallet balance.
Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#23 - 2013-01-26 01:18:24 UTC
"I served the community my whole life, but when I brutally murdered someone they tossed me into a cell and threw away the key. How is this right?!"
Kaseki Suuvatolo
State War Academy
Caldari State
#24 - 2013-01-26 01:21:26 UTC
The money you bought was probably taken from hacked accounts.

Think about that a second and then reconsider if you should have made this silly thread.
Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#25 - 2013-01-26 01:21:55 UTC
Shipasta wrote:
Captain Tardbar wrote:
You know, if you started giving people random amounts of isk, we might support your position.

Say 100 million isk worth might get me to say something nice on your behalf on the forums.



Ive given billions away in this game but i dont feel buying good responces is what i was looking for. I wanted to hear the comunitys unbiased veiws and to wich mostly negetive i do appreciate that they are honest.




I don't know. A flashing wallet might make some people legitimately change how they feel about a topic.

Honesty is a fickle thing.

Looking to talk on VOIP with other EVE players? Are you new and need help with EVE (welfare) or looking for advice? Looking for adversarial debate with angry people?

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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#26 - 2013-01-26 01:22:30 UTC
Shipasta wrote:
I was refused this. now I know I have done the wrong thing and the rules were broken but I dont feel 100% responcible. CCP has made a free trade systen that is so easily exploited for RMT and has dont nothing substantial to change this. Its like going to a class roon and handing out candy to kids and then saying DONT EAT THE CANDY OR YOU WILL BE EXPELLED.
ng brought to the server without asking what your current player base felt about it.


You bought isk, so of course you are 100% responsible. The suggestion that RMT people would hand out free isk just to punish random people is laughable. You did the wrong thing & have paid the price for it, but it sounds like you haven't learned your lesson.

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Karak Terrel
Foundation for CODE and THE NEW ORDER
#27 - 2013-01-26 01:27:42 UTC
Shipasta wrote:

on another had i do wish CCP offferd there plex at a lower rate so that it would not be a temtation for other players to engauge in RMT.


CCP doesn't sell ISK. They sell game time which you can sell to other players. You practically pay others to play the game and grind ISK for you if you sell a PLEX. So the price of the PLEX is regulated by supply and demand. CCP has no influence on that.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#28 - 2013-01-26 01:30:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Mallak Azaria
Karak Terrel wrote:
Shipasta wrote:

on another had i do wish CCP offferd there plex at a lower rate so that it would not be a temtation for other players to engauge in RMT.


CCP doesn't sell ISK. They sell game time which you can sell to other players. You practically pay others to play the game and grind ISK for you if you sell a PLEX. So the price of the PLEX is regulated by supply and demand. CCP has no influence on that.


Not to mention that offering PLEX at a lower rate would make CCP lose money & isk sellers would just sell lower to compensate, making the price reduction completely useless because greedy cheaters such as the OP would buy the dodgy isk regardless.

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Piugattuk
Litla Sundlaugin
#29 - 2013-01-26 01:35:43 UTC
CCP policy is quite clear, even if you spent $1900 or a mil their policy was still there, you then bought plex further accepting their policy, now if you disagree with their policy fine, but why for the love of god put it here, you just made another mistake after.that one.
My advice to you is don't worry about CCP's game, take a look at your life and ask why things happen to you, and instead of blaming them accept responsibility and don't feel sorry for yourself fix the problem and move on, I'm not jumping you just explaining what is more important then a game.
Romvex
TURN LEFT
#30 - 2013-01-26 01:43:03 UTC
I was about to ask for your stuff, but it's been soiled by your crimesX
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#31 - 2013-01-26 01:43:53 UTC
Shipasta wrote:
Im not the only one that makes mistakes.


True, apparently your spell checker is conspiring against you as well.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0
Xpaulusx
Naari LLC
#32 - 2013-01-26 01:47:00 UTC
Shipasta wrote:
Hi every one from the eve comunity,

I would like to post a public grievance I have with CCP and show how a loyal suporter and customer of this fine game is treated when asking for assistance to rectify his mistakes

I have currnently been punnished for succumbing to the temtation of recieving isk form an isk seller, and I now know that it breachs section 6.B of the ELUA

First off I would like to apologize to the player base for my breach of the ELUA if my actions have caused any harm to you I am truly sorry and I ask of your forgivness for my act,

I have offered a sincer apology to CCP and also brought aother 6 PLEX though the proper and sanctioned method provied by CCP so to show I will follow the game rules.

I have then since found that due to my wallet being negitive 3 billion isk I cannot even sell the plex to fix my deficit.

I then looked back over my paypal account and found in the last 18 months I have spent $1900 with CCP on PLEX and subscriptions. I feel that a little good will is deserved and asked that they make my wallet to a playable balance so that I may sell the plex and continue to enjoy playing eve.

I was refused this. now I know I have done the wrong thing and the rules were broken but I dont feel 100% responcible. CCP has made a free trade systen that is so easily exploited for RMT and has dont nothing substantial to change this. Its like going to a class roon and handing out candy to kids and then saying DONT EAT THE CANDY OR YOU WILL BE EXPELLED.

Also the isk seller that did the tempting and advertised the isk at a conciderable lower amount then CCP is still playingeve with out concerquince.

Im not the only one that makes mistakes. CCP I have endured many of your mistakes and forgiven them for example the unified inventory being brounght to Tranquility before it was ready with so many bugs that cause endless frustration, the many nerfs of great parts in the game. the ever increasing inflation of the market yet there is no increase of income for the new player base running missions making ships and moduals out of there reach, the captanis quarters that made my client crash every time I entered them many patches ago. Dust being brought to the server without asking what your current player base felt about it.

CCP im only human and I do make mistakes. I have aploagised to you and your player base and shown remorse for my actions and in good will spent another $104.97 on plex to show im willing to play by the rules. If this isnt enough to get a little good will from your company then I feel my time playing EVE online is over.

Take care every one and fly safe.

CCP is actually very lenient in these matters as opposed to other gaming companies which almost certainly delete your entire account and permaban you. 3 Billion isk fine is a small price to pay. I would suggest you rat it off or start fresh, don't quit and don't do it again. Good Luck.

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Frying Doom
#33 - 2013-01-26 01:49:12 UTC
Be thank full CCP is so kind. If it was me I would have banned your account and used the $1900 to send some RMT to your house.

RMT is of course Real Mean Thugs.Lol

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Flakey Foont
#34 - 2013-01-26 02:01:22 UTC
A loser is a loser.
ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#35 - 2013-01-26 02:08:41 UTC
Shipasta wrote:
Mr. Orange wrote:
Shipasta wrote:


First off I would like to apologize to the player base for my breach of the ELUA if my actions have caused any harm to you I am truly sorry and I ask of your forgivness for my act,



Your actions within EvE have caused me great undue stress! As a result of this said stress, I have been having "performance issues" in bed with my wife.

When I tried to explain to her that it wasn't her fault; that my mind was on Eve at the time, she went "bat-**** crazy" out of control.

I am now looking at a dire situation, most likely headed for divorce...

It's because of RMT people like you that we can't have nice things.... Cry



im truly sorry for your preformance issues in bed, may i sugest you seek mediicle adivce. I would hate to hear you broke up your marriage over a video game.

I dont feel I cheated CCP ive given them more than most do. I spent $60 with an isk seller and I spent $1900 with CCP,
although you guys blast me its ppl like my self that spend tehre hard earned money on this game that pays for its staf and development. I could of easily paid for plex with my in game income but i chose to paypal my accouts to suport CCP and tehre great work.

I offer a genuine apology and all i get is harsh comments, I dont condone RMT and after experianceing it and knowing its concerquince i would strongly advise you never engauge in it.

on another had i do wish CCP offferd there plex at a lower rate so that it would not be a temtation for other players to engauge in RMT.

EVE isn't a F2P game, EVERYONE has spent their hard earned money on it, and if they use PLEX then someone had to have bought that off CCP in the first place. You keep trying to tell us how sharing and polite of a player you are, yet you just break the rules you are somehow surprised at the response you get from CCP and the playerbase

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.
Ave Kathrina
My Ass Is On Fire
#36 - 2013-01-26 02:13:49 UTC
TLDR

'I'm so ******** that I think i think I should get a 'get out of jail free' card as reward for me past loyalty.'

Do not pass go, do not collect 200 plex, and accept the ban as lesson on why playing within the rules is important.
I've done some really stupid shit in this game.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#37 - 2013-01-26 02:14:14 UTC
You got away rather lightly IMHO.

Suck it up and Biomass that char. It'll be forever tainted. I have no sympathy for you at all.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Hannah Flex
#38 - 2013-01-26 02:14:22 UTC
lolol
Alaekessa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
#39 - 2013-01-26 02:26:23 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:
"I served the community my whole life, but when I brutally murdered someone they tossed me into a cell and threw away the key. How is this right?!"


I think this is a bad analogy. There could've been extenuating circumstances which justify the murder you committed. RMT on the other hand, simply jeopardizes CCP's revenue stream which jeopardizes the continued stability of the servers which jeopardizes the stress relief of many many many eve players which in turn could (hypothetically) cause lots of murders.

OP should be tried for Attempted Genocide.
Charlepetit LaJoie
Trust Me Ltd
#40 - 2013-01-26 02:40:39 UTC
Here's an interview with a goldseller who explains how he made money selling in-game gold, stole his customers' identities, stole from their bank and credit accounts, etc.

http://youtu.be/Wktdmhn9VP0

I suggest you check all your financial accounts today, change passwords, try to avoid any more damage that can come to you from this experience. CCP's punishment should not be your biggest worry.