Crime & Punishment

The total cost of a ganking fleet is ~15 million ISK divided between five or six people. Even if we fail to gank a ship, we've hardly lost anything.

Also, we scan fits beforehand, so if you've got a huge tank we'll just bring a huge ganking fleet.

Somehow this kind of mentality from a rebel doesnt surprise me. What an ignorant comment.

Then we would wave to you afterwards, and complement you on giving us a good fight.

By making a bait Skiff, and engaging in actual PvP, you are engaging in activity we all support. Perhaps miners might learn something from you?

Good show! I hope to see you in the belt.

Fair enough.

So does that mean that if a real miner is actively attempting to thwart you by baiting, tanking and generally using their brain, could they eventually be made exempt from having to pay the 10mil extortion fee? After all, the new order's primary goal has nothing to do with isk.... right?

In other words, "no".

Might I suggest then an addition to the New Order's code or whatever the hell you guys call it? If a miner has shown adaptability by managing to thwart the new order's ganking attempts at least [insert appropriate number here] times (or some other appropriate measure) then that miner can apply to be registered as "safe" and is no longer required to pay 10mil isk for immunity. This status would last for say, 6 months, for example.

This would give miners an incentive to embrace emergent gameplay and adapt rather than just having a system which punishes for non compliance. Of course, this may eventually lead to a significant reduction in the New Order's income but, at that point, it would have achieved a significant amount of it's primary goal.

The matter of the nominal fee of 10 million ISK is brought up a lot and people seem to really believe that the New Order is funded by this. It isn't. Most Agents and Knights of the New Order of Highsec are voluntarily donating their time, energy, and effort to the movement to improve the gaming environment in Highsec. Most Agents and Knights could make far more ISK doing other activities than what they collect in mining permits.

The reason the movement is so incredibly successful and continues to grow is because of the basic good of its mission. The New Order of Highsec cares about miners and works towards improving active mining as a career path in EVE Online. The good works of the New Order are their own reward.

In terms of funding, the New Order of Highsec receives the majority of its funding from a multitude of supporters throughout all of EVE Online. You can track the investment of these gallant and generous individuals here:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=141127&find=unread

As of today, the latest tally is 48 billion and the amount continues to increase.

The New Order of Highsec doesn't have to charge for the mining permit. That isn't the point. The fee itself is the point.

When someone pays for their mining permit it is a symbol of their understanding that the New Order Of Highsec provides a beneficial framework of rules and guidance for mining in all of Highsec. The permit is a bureaucratic mechanism of governance and nothing more.

Without rule, law, and order there is chaos. The permits are a sign of rule, law, and order. The permit fee is kept at a nominal and extremely reasonable amount so as to not be a burden on miners.

Remember, the New Order of Highsec provides purpose, dignity, structure, order, guidance, and leadership to all miners in Highsec. We are humble servants for the greater good.

He answered you, you just neglected to request that he bring flash cards and charts.



They'll change their beliefs based on money changing hands? What was that you were saying about politicians? :P

I'll keep it simple then.

Our primary goal is compliance with the New Order Code of Halaima as written by James 315.

Backing off of the 10m ISK fee would be a failure to enforce the code.

( note: The Code allows indigent miners to request the Questions Three as a 24 hour indulgence. )

Yeah, most of my posts are well thought out

Skiffs are not gank proof.

They just require more pilots. Since Skiffs are spendy t2 ORE ships, our ISK efficiency still stays positive.

Flying a Skiff, and not verbally sparring with Knights will make it unlikely you are ganked, when there are Macks to be nuked, yes.

Having a Permit tank, the URL and support in your Bio, and greeting Knights in local with a cheery wave will make your Skiff utterly immune to New Order Knight enforcement actions.



Permit Tank is the Best Tank.