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Another Sansha TD thread.
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Novah Soul
#1 - 2013-01-22 14:18:56 UTC
Well, it's related anyway.

So, right now the only real solution to Sansha missions is to do them in a missile boat, ok, fair enough. What is to happen to missile boats against Sansha when/if CCP gets to tweaking TD to affect missiles (read somewhere this was a new planned 'feature')? Does anyone know the specifics on how they would affect them?

OT: Anyone know which CCP employee to be a pest to on Twitter about addressing the TD issue? They haven't addressed the forum threads in a couple of weeks.

A man is known by the quality of his friends. - Lex Luthor
Funky Lazers
Funk Freakers
#2 - 2013-01-22 21:40:43 UTC
Novah Soul wrote:
Well, it's related anyway.

So, right now the only real solution to Sansha missions is to do them in a missile boat, ok, fair enough. What is to happen to missile boats against Sansha when/if CCP gets to tweaking TD to affect missiles (read somewhere this was a new planned 'feature')? Does anyone know the specifics on how they would affect them?

OT: Anyone know which CCP employee to be a pest to on Twitter about addressing the TD issue? They haven't addressed the forum threads in a couple of weeks.


I think TDs are going to affect missiles in the same proportion as for guns, otherwise it will be unfair.
In case of sansha my guess is TDs will be killing missiles completely just the same as they kill guns.

As for Twitter I have no idea what it is.

Whatever.
Klymer
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2013-01-22 23:21:04 UTC
Explosion radius and explosion velocity were mentioned at one point as being the stats they would effect.
Ildryn
IDLE INTENTIONS
#4 - 2013-01-23 01:16:36 UTC
Fit a prop mod. Fly to td sansha.
Kill said sansha.

Stop whining.
Rocket D'ni
x Infected x
#5 - 2013-01-23 01:48:20 UTC
Ildryn wrote:
Fit a prop mod. Fly to td sansha.
Kill said sansha.

Stop whining.


Yeah because noone had thought of that already and its working so well.

I smell stinky bridge troll.
Ildryn
IDLE INTENTIONS
#6 - 2013-01-23 02:54:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Ildryn
Rocket D'ni wrote:
Ildryn wrote:
Fit a prop mod. Fly to td sansha.
Kill said sansha.

Stop whining.


Yeah because noone had thought of that already and its working so well.

I smell stinky bridge troll.


Oh that would explain why i have 10.0 standings with two factions.
I use gunnery exclusively. Namely the Nightmare and the Machariel.
The only missions i turn down are high sec faction. Minmatar/Gallente. The rest i do solo.
I don't even deploy drones. Big smile


I smell low sp wannabe. Roll

Rocket D'ni
Republic University [RUN] from 2011.07.30 21:28
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-01-23 15:44:09 UTC
Ildryn wrote:
Fit a prop mod. Fly to td sansha.
Kill said sansha.

Stop whining.


Fail troll. Undock moar.Roll

Td isn't sensor dampening, once you've closed within the 5km range, your tracking is so bad you can't hit BS rats. Try Sansha Blockade and note the difference from Serp Blockade - former is impossible, later is merely annoying. The whole issue with td is that it has no counter for turret boats other than dual boxing.
Ildryn
IDLE INTENTIONS
#8 - 2013-01-23 20:01:29 UTC
sabre906 wrote:
Ildryn wrote:
Fit a prop mod. Fly to td sansha.
Kill said sansha.

Stop whining.


Fail troll. Undock moar.Roll

Td isn't sensor dampening, once you've closed within the 5km range, your tracking is so bad you can't hit BS rats. Try Sansha Blockade and note the difference from Serp Blockade - former is impossible, later is merely annoying. The whole issue with td is that it has no counter for turret boats other than dual boxing.


I assure you i undock every day.
You have fail skills.
My gunnery is maxed out. Is yours?
Add transversal to your overview and match speed.
Battleships and cruisers will die.

lrn2eve before you unskilled idiots start calling others trolls because you fail.
Move to level 3s or level 2s if you can't handle the td.
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-01-23 20:24:23 UTC  |  Edited by: sabre906
Ildryn wrote:
sabre906 wrote:
Ildryn wrote:
Fit a prop mod. Fly to td sansha.
Kill said sansha.

Stop whining.


Fail troll. Undock moar.Roll

Td isn't sensor dampening, once you've closed within the 5km range, your tracking is so bad you can't hit BS rats. Try Sansha Blockade and note the difference from Serp Blockade - former is impossible, later is merely annoying. The whole issue with td is that it has no counter for turret boats other than dual boxing.


I assure you i undock every day.
You have fail skills.
My gunnery is maxed out. Is yours?
Add transversal to your overview and match speed.
Battleships and cruisers will die.

lrn2eve before you unskilled idiots start calling others trolls because you fail.
Move to level 3s or level 2s if you can't handle the td.





Fail troll.

Max skill. Also have hardwiring, And no, that 5% doesn't make a difference either. You don't match BS rat's 20 m/s crawl, which is more than your guns can track. Undock moar. Try Sansha Blockade or any plex on for size.Lol
Ildryn
IDLE INTENTIONS
#10 - 2013-01-23 22:19:10 UTC
sabre906 wrote:


Fail troll.

Max skill. Also have hardwiring, And no, that 5% doesn't make a difference either. You don't match BS rat's 20 m/s crawl, which is more than your guns can track. Undock moar. Try Sansha Blockade or any plex on for size.Lol


I'm the fail troll and you cant run missions?
I use a mach and a nightmare. I run all level 4s just fine. (I don't do Gallente/Minmatar)
There are even a few level 5s that i do just fine.
If you have the same ship/gunnery skills that i have then you are doing it wrong.
Please stop trolling, look at your fit, and fix it.

You can match bs rats if you approach them directly. They fly directly away from you and attempt to get to orbit range.
Try it before you come back here and say i am wrong.
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-01-23 22:23:55 UTC
Ildryn wrote:
sabre906 wrote:


Fail troll.

Max skill. Also have hardwiring, And no, that 5% doesn't make a difference either. You don't match BS rat's 20 m/s crawl, which is more than your guns can track. Undock moar. Try Sansha Blockade or any plex on for size.Lol


I'm the fail troll and you cant run missions?
I use a mach and a nightmare. I run all level 4s just fine. (I don't do Gallente/Minmatar)
There are even a few level 5s that i do just fine.
If you have the same ship/gunnery skills that i have then you are doing it wrong.
Please stop trolling, look at your fit, and fix it.

You can match bs rats if you approach them directly. They fly directly away from you and attempt to get to orbit range.
Try it before you come back here and say i am wrong.







Wrong. The tiniest twitch, and your guns miss. Go try any Sansha blockade or plex instead of imagining it in your head. Undock moar.Lol
Ildryn
IDLE INTENTIONS
#12 - 2013-01-23 22:32:50 UTC
sabre906 wrote:
Ildryn wrote:
sabre906 wrote:


Fail troll.

Max skill. Also have hardwiring, And no, that 5% doesn't make a difference either. You don't match BS rat's 20 m/s crawl, which is more than your guns can track. Undock moar. Try Sansha Blockade or any plex on for size.Lol


I'm the fail troll and you cant run missions?
I use a mach and a nightmare. I run all level 4s just fine. (I don't do Gallente/Minmatar)
There are even a few level 5s that i do just fine.
If you have the same ship/gunnery skills that i have then you are doing it wrong.
Please stop trolling, look at your fit, and fix it.

You can match bs rats if you approach them directly. They fly directly away from you and attempt to get to orbit range.
Try it before you come back here and say i am wrong.







Wrong. The tiniest twitch, and your guns miss. Go try any Sansha blockade or plex instead of imagining it in your head. Undock moar.Lol


So you didn't try...not in the 4 minutes it took you to post a reply.
It works. I do it.
Have done a Sansha Blockade in the past 3 days on this account.
It is you that needs to undock.
I'm right.
/thread
Baron Dmitri Harkonnen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-01-24 03:46:11 UTC
Ildryn wrote:


So you didn't try...not in the 4 minutes it took you to post a reply.
It works. I do it.
Have done a Sansha Blockade in the past 3 days on this account.
It is you that needs to undock.
I'm right.
/thread


TROLOLOLOL.

I guess that fact that CCP released new NPC AI while admitting this is intended for the new PVE revamp (NPC to act more like players which means far few ships per mission because of how much they EWAR now).

GTFO here.
Ildryn
IDLE INTENTIONS
#14 - 2013-01-24 06:37:18 UTC
Baron Dmitri Harkonnen wrote:
Ildryn wrote:


So you didn't try...not in the 4 minutes it took you to post a reply.
It works. I do it.
Have done a Sansha Blockade in the past 3 days on this account.
It is you that needs to undock.
I'm right.
/thread


TROLOLOLOL.

I guess that fact that CCP released new NPC AI while admitting this is intended for the new PVE revamp (NPC to act more like players which means far few ships per mission because of how much they EWAR now).

GTFO here.


Baron Dmitri Harkonnen
Security Status 0.0

State War Academy [SWA]
Member for 3 days

What you say is really relevant. Roll
Turelus
Utassi Security
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#15 - 2013-01-24 06:59:17 UTC
Tracking Sansha NPCs is fun! http://eve-files.com/dl/260194

You CAN hit them moving right up close but not always. My Nightmare (max skills) Still can't hit a BS at 5KM with more than three TDs on it.

Turelus CEO Utassi Security
Baron Dmitri Harkonnen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#16 - 2013-01-24 07:58:23 UTC
Ildryn wrote:
Baron Dmitri Harkonnen wrote:
Ildryn wrote:


So you didn't try...not in the 4 minutes it took you to post a reply.
It works. I do it.
Have done a Sansha Blockade in the past 3 days on this account.
It is you that needs to undock.
I'm right.
/thread


TROLOLOLOL.

I guess that fact that CCP released new NPC AI while admitting this is intended for the new PVE revamp (NPC to act more like players which means far few ships per mission because of how much they EWAR now).

GTFO here.


Baron Dmitri Harkonnen
Security Status 0.0

State War Academy [SWA]
Member for 3 days

What you say is really relevant. Roll


Yep. I've been playing EVE for 3 days. Don't have any alts or mains. NOPE.

You just lost all credibility. Cya mate and take care :)
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2013-01-24 11:53:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Barrogh Habalu
Novah Soul wrote:
So, right now the only real solution to Sansha missions is to do them in a missile boat.

This is wrong in more than one way.

If you actually checked out other threads on the matter instead of creating new one, not only you would follow basic forum etiquette (inb4 e-bushido jokes), but also you'd have more than one solution to the issue.

EDIT 1. Dammit, these forums. I'm getting way too blunt to people. Anyways, the point stays, there are many ways to sidestep TD problem until CCP maybe change it in some way, and a lot of them were listed in threads already existing.

EDIT 2.

Turelus wrote:
Tracking Sansha NPCs is fun! http://eve-files.com/dl/260194

You CAN hit them moving right up close but not always. My Nightmare (max skills) Still can't hit a BS at 5KM with more than three TDs on it.

Heh, I remember doing that with my Abaddon a few months ago, the trick was to force them to fly away from you in a straight line by chasing them, making slight corrections of your own trajectory in the process as NPC still try to set an orbit and thus creating transversal speed component.

Good that I don't have to do that anymore. Though I must admit I'm getting lazy without having to do things like that Big smile

Future of T3 cruisers - multi-tool they aspired to be instead of sledgehammer they have become
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#18 - 2013-01-25 21:54:10 UTC
Ildryn is one of the best pilots I've played with so if he says it works I am inclined to believe. all I can think is great now the mach is better vs sanshas than the nightmare. I liked having a ship that was better at some things.

all praise the machariel the pve god boat!

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2013-01-25 22:07:42 UTC
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
Ildryn is one of the best pilots I've played with so if he says it works I am inclined to believe. all I can think is great now the mach is better vs sanshas than the nightmare. I liked having a ship that was better at some things.

all praise the machariel the pve god boat!


Oh look, your alt loves youBig smile

And just a reminder, TD these days affect falloff too.Lol
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#20 - 2013-01-25 22:30:48 UTC
sabre906 wrote:
Oh look, your alt loves youBig smile

And just a reminder, TD these days affect falloff too.Lol


yes but the mach is much faster than the nightmare so it can close range and deal with the tds faster.

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter
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