Player Features and Ideas Discussion

tl;dr; soon™

Of course, it becomes a concern as to whether this will include ships intended to boost PvE concerns, such as mining.

Will these boosting modules be exempt, and permit the typical current shielded boosting ability at a POS?

Let's say you have a BC, and you use it in support of mining with one of these boosters for duration on mining lasers.
(Useful tactic, the BC can also remove NPC rats for the miners if they have bigger ones causing probs)

Or will it be ship specific, the ORCA and RORQUAL getting a pass for off grid, but being limited to indy boosts only?

Super^^
Can´t await the day I see 6 minmatar boosters at once in Kamela.
So probably 2014.

Hopefully not for a very long time (unless they dramatically change how a lot of the game works).

Amongst my many uses for my boosting alt (which gets used for PVP and PVE) includes quite a lot of situations in PVE where I've got one char boosting from a safe in system and 2 other chars in completely different grids doing completely different things.

While I'm not one to do that much mining one example thats fairly simple and easy to understand by people who have never actually bothered with boosters but want them nerfed because they just want quick and easy ganks would be if I had one char mining an anom and another mining at a belt and the booster char sitting in a safe boosting tank and mining links.

How long will it be before those that asked for this, then complain about the new changes?

think bubbles. then think boosting. then think bubbles which boost fleet with in the bubble insted of stopping people from warping off? keep old nerfed offgrid boosting. and make ON grid boosting 2x more effective BUT ongrid boosting overwrites the offgrid boosts (so you cannot stack) and make the booster ship have some sort of visual so its more a target/vunerable point to counterbalance the uber ONgrid boosts

Do individual grids have their own internal ID, or is it possible to do this? How do you determine who is on grid, considering all of the grid-fu tactics available, so you can populate the overview? Perhaps do the same with boosting.

(And the Orca and Rorq are designed to be mining boosters and mining support, ie, on-grid with the mining fleet)

I would not suggest the design wanted the indy support off grid. With those tractor beam bonuses like this that would be bizarre.

That said, current play styles are being permitted which don't acknowledge how the orca or rorqual function. Sticking them in the POS is a typical improvise that is seen a lot.

It is accepted that where the rorqual operates, the miners often use local as a warning tool for knowing when to evacuate belts for safety.
A rorqual in compression mode would have no chance, and be left behind. And it only gets the bonus when in that mode.
If you force players to choose between the convenient warnings being offered, and using the rorqual to it's fullest, I think they are most likely going to choose the convenient warnings.

Should they be playing this way?
Human nature says they will always take the easiest path that they can get away with using.

Changing that is not the topic of this thread.

Thanks for the input. The CSM minutes made it sound like this change is like waiting on a miracle to happen.

Is there someone or some team specifically assigned to correct this, or will there be at some point?

People are speculating what the technical difficulty is.

Would making the boosts a duration based help the issue?